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I don’t agree with him on everything, but Ben Shapiro is a genius


It is mesmerizing to listen to him dismantle people with his rapid fire assault of facts and science. I primarily disagree w his stance on abortion, but he’s pretty spot on w a lot of stuff, particularly the transgender issue. All people seem to be able to do is counter him with personal attacks and call him a nerd, but I see very few people - interviewers, audience members, or even actual members of the scientific or medical communities - who are able to keep up with him or genuinely dispute much of what he says.

https://youtu.be/gkONHNXGfaM

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I listen to Ben every week day. His podcast on YouTube. If I say any more this will belong on the politics board.

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Yeah even when you don’t agree w him he’s intriguing to listen to

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Why? When you comment something like this it just sounds like internet Tourette's so blurt out so-and-as's a genius. That is proclaimed about more and more people all over the internet everyday. Genius ain't so rare I guess, but make your case. Give us an example, or think about not posting so much.

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Being that he's an Orthodox Jew, how do you reconcile this post with your other post regarding religious people?

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I just said I don’t agree with him on everything. I think that is a detractor and obviously likely conflicts with many of his views and arguments. I’d be interested to hear how he justifies that.

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According to you, no one can justify such beliefs. And he's not simply a believer, he's at the more extreme end of the spectrum of religious people. So if you lose respect for garden variety believers, how does he get the “genius” label?

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Considering I previously had no knowledge of his religious beliefs, it obviously has nothing to do with my OP. Doesn’t change the fact that he’s still a genius and most people are stupid. He likely believes for the same stupid reason less intelligent people believe.

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You've set a low bar for reaching “genius” status.

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Are you part of the LGBT community or just a bleeding heart?

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I'm a straight male, an atheist, and a libertarian.

Are you someone prone to giving grandiose labels like “genius” and “masterpiece” in place of simply saying that you like them a lot -- or just someone who writes thirsty posts, in this case, intended to bait LGBT and bleeding hearts, in order to give you the attention that you constantly crave? Both?

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Ok so you’re black. If not and I haven’t marginalized you in some way in your eyes then you’re just a contentious douchebag as this post isn’t a troll post at all and I gave a pretty articulate body text to support my claim, absolutely nothing to do with wanting attention.

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Wrong again. White. And I'm a douchebag b/c I asked a legit question? I didn't support my view? Or am I just a douchebag b/c I disagreed and corrected your silly, snarky assumptions and countered with my own?
I just must be this or that, huh? You assume so much yet know so little.

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I don't know his views on trans people, but I imagine it's something similar to Rowling?

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he is an ignorant obnoxious toad.

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i occasionally listen to his podcast, mostly because i think he's a good mouthpiece for his views, and i try to get something close to a cross-section of varying views. i certainly don't agree with all he says, but he's a strong advocate for his pov.

i generally think he's on pretty solid ground in his economic thinking, and when he gets onto some religious matters i find him a bit silly - he's had creationists & id'ers on his show, & i believe he's said a few intelligent design-friendly things over the years. i don't listen regularly enough to know his exact opinions, but i think he's not on particularly solid ground on those matters as best i can tell.

i can't help but feel that he showed a little too much concern in playing to his own fan base when it came to the election & trump. in the episodes i've heard recently, i think he's been far too casual about the way trump eroded some basic norms, didn't seem concerned at all about his trade illiteracy, & didn't seem to push back at all on the really silly conspiratorial tweets & lawsuits trumpland has floated after the election. that i find very hard to take, & while doing that may have been better for his bank account, i don't think it will be good for his conscience.

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Well he just made the news for objecting to the existence of a lesbian holiday romantic film, called "The Happiest Season".

That isn't genius, that isn't using science or facts to make a point, that's pure bigotry. People loathe him for a reason.

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Ben's OK and he's correct more often than a stopped clocked. Not bad. Not great either.

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