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Not a sequel. It's a spin-off movie starring the Furiosa character and chronologically a prequel to Fury Road as well. Movie is decent though like the Max movies, it's different enough to be it's own thing. Like it's almost comparable to Thunderdome in that it's much heavier on the world building and has a sizable helping of the absurd but it still retains the Fury Road world and tone (No kids or family friendly stuff). Action is still very good but the best sequences are mid-movie and there's no big action scene finale like in the other movies. So if you're not into the characters or world then one might find the back-end kinda flat. I've only seen it once so my opinion could change over time but as of right now, if Road Warrior and Fury Road are in the 9-10 range then this would be like a 7.5. Also kinda odd the movie ends right where Fury Road begins. Flies in the face of casting a younger actor for Furiosa when for a large amount of the movie her character seems to only be about a year or so removed from her age in Fury Road. Might as well have just had Charlize reprise the role (Assuming she'd want to). That one is fun though I prefer Warrior of the Lost World =P Yeah despite some qualms I still enjoyed Furiosa overall. It's just disappointing it being a massive flop has probably killed any chance for another outing with Max and perhaps the series overall. Considering Miller's age we probably only had one more of these with him too. Oh well. Yeah Mel is no longer a box office draw and Max isn't big enough for a "one last time" nostalgia movie. Like Rocky is a gigantic series compared to Mad Max but Balboa only did decent box office relative to it's budget. If it was budgeted like modern Max movie it would have been a flop. Possibly they could have pulled a James Bond with successive leads but the Max movies are too infrequent to run that endless adventure formula. <blockquote>Yeah, people who think it's failing because it's a female lead movie, are silly. Look at Atlas on Netflix, starring Jennifer Lopez and it's a big hit.</blockquote> To be fair, that example is a streaming movie and not really comparable. Otherwise stuff like Rebel Moon can be considered a hit too. <blockquote>The first one was so heavy handed with feminism. It wasn't even about Max himself. This has none of that? "Female Empowerment"?</blockquote> Nah. The closest to anything like that would be Furiosa having two female parents (Though the movie won't outright say they're in a lesbian relationship) and there's a female villain who, naturally, gets a very "soft" death. That's really about it though. Furiosa is capable but not instantly flawless and at one point she's even mentored by a positively portrayed man and even has a brief relationship with him. Any issues with this movie have little to nothing to do with the socio-political arguments of today. Seemed like it flopped largely due to a lack of interest. Fury Road did ok but wasn't a major success. Furiosa, the character, got a lot of publicity and (seeming) popularity after Fury Road but they waited beyond too long to capitalize on that and now it's been long enough to where a new Mad Max movie would be more preferable. Couple that with being a prequel (Centered on a backstory nobody was clamoring for), awful marketing, no real hype and so-so reviews which tried to damage control right out the gate with "...well it's not Fury Road, it's different" and you have something people are more comfortable giving a chance on streaming. Well that guy who got smashed into the floor by the wardrobe looked pretty dead. For me the real issue with this one vs Raiders and Crusade is the weak story, surface level supporting cast and underdeveloped villains due the movie focusing on being something of a rollercoaster ride (Almost literal toward the end). It relies heavily on the action sequences and set pieces to carry the film and while those are indeed great, it lacks the substance, character and plot intricacies that we saw in the other two. As a result it's very hollow or "fluff". Well executed and entertaining fluff but merely just that. Still, if you can accept that, it's a well made and fun watch. Trailer is extremely heavy on callbacks to the first movie. Hopefully it's not just a bunch of "remember this from the original?" remixes. <blockquote>Furiosa is eyeing an $80M-$85M global start. Broken out, that’s $40M-$45M abroad and another $40M+ four-day domestic.</blockquote> Hmmm...so domestically it's tracking a bit below Fury Road which was considered to be somewhat disappointing way back when. Nah Max seemed to just be an aimless drifter. This continues in Thunderdome where he's traveling with all his possessions in that camel driven vehicle. All the above can and maybe do apply. Though she says "Ain't we a pair..." which to me gave the impression she recognizes Max did everything to protect the children yet is left with nothing, while she also did everything for Bartertown ("I'll do anything to protect it") yet is also left with nothing now that it's destroyed. Killing him now wouldn't change anything so out of an odd form of respect she lets him live. Same deal as with Rogue One "A Star Wars Story" and that kind of thing. It's a side story not following the "mainline" leads but letting people know it takes place in that same universe. That and using a famous title to coax more people into seeing it. Yeah it's a terrible scene for all the reasons mentioned. Plus it ruins the Greedo encounter as originally that scene made it seem like Jabba already had bounty hunters coming for Solo and so he <i>really</i> needed that money as he didn't know when he might encounter another. Now due to this scene, Greedo was just some goon Jabba sent to fetch him while they waited outside. And as mentioned, makes Greedo's attempt to kill Han really stupid. Because originally it made it clear he's not willing to take any chances and will straight out kill you if he believes you're a threat. Whereas in the SE it shows he wont kill someone until they make the first move. Nah nobody thought that and the fact that he's constantly breathing makes it clear it's not a droid. The Skywalker family line is naturally strong with the force for reasons never explained, so being his sister, she is as well. And like with Luke prior to meeting Obi-Wan, her ability has been dormant/unrealized but with training she would be able to realize her potential as well. I don't know if there's any official reason but I'm going to assume it's because they wanted the lighting to point downward and not up toward the title.