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I don't know why they didn't cast a Spanish actress for Catherine as well. Certainly plenty of them speak English. How is the accent of the African woman? I find her very unattractive, they could have at least given the dude a pretty lady in waiting.
They picked that crazy chick from Game of Thrones.
Yes. They unite and fight so hard to protect "their family" who Billy has talked to like once or twice each.
To me, it's exactly the same as Suicide Squad. It just feels dumb. They couldn't make a Shazam film with him along and had to introduce the "Shazam family" characters in the origin film?
I thought it was more like days, but didn't he only talk to the handicapped kid more than like once? Heh.
But they weren't even Fire Forged Friends.
They were somehow a close "family" before the fighting.
That would have been funny, but it's the whole implication.
No, of course, the King didn't actually say out in public that he knows she wasn't a virgin on their wedding night, but that's the whole implication throughout the entire annulment process. That he took his brother's wife and that she wasn't a virgin, which he would know, not anyone else.
Where did you see that she "testified" in 1502 that her marriage wasn't consummated? My understanding is that the papal dispensation allowed them to marry and it didn't matter if her and Arthur's marriage was consummated and there's no allusion to it. It wasn't the first time a brother married his brother's widow with a dispensation. Unlike what they show in the series, the consummation issue didn't matter. But it would have made Catherine much more desirable.
It's impossible to say for certain of course, because Henry had selfish reasons for the annulment and did not seem to care if her marriage to Arthur was consummated until not until then. But she also had selfish reasons for saying it wasn't both for herself and her daughter.
As I said, it would have made marriage to her more desirable is she was a virgin after Arthur died, it doesn't make sense if it was not consummated for her to never have revealed this.
Arthur had told people they consummated the marriage. It's possible she kept quiet about it out of respect for him, but they weren't together for long. This loyalty remained so strong until decades later when suddenly she says he was impotent or incapable to save her position? No. I just don't see it. It would have much to her benefit to have told the truth at the time if it wasn't consummated.
Yes, Henry should have known for sure on their wedding night, but he's the one who insisted adamantly that her marriage to Arthur was consummated. He did it much later for selfish reasons, but he's the one who bedded her and said she wasn't a virgin when they married. It just didn't matter to him until she didn't give him a son.
Her Aragonese husband and his military advisors planned the campaigns and conquered Granada for Castile. Just as he won the Civil War to keep in her power. It's bullshit how Ferdinand, an actual King who fought in the battlefield and risked his life gets insulted to push these modern feminist themes.
Yes, Catherine was Queen during the Battle of Flodden, but she sure didn't organize and lead the troops. Although I have no doubt this show next year will show her doing that.
It was on Starz.
The tradition that Arthur Tudor was so sickly is like the tradition that Edward Tudor was sickly. It's just not true. The sweating sickness is a sudden and very fatal disease of the time. Just as Edward Tudor wasn't sickly until the last months of his life.
Don't you think she might have told them after Arthur died and the the years of waiting for Henry that that marriage wasn't consummated to make it easier to get a dispensation? She didn't. Unlike in the series, she doesn't insult Arthur by pretending he was incapable or something.
Modern TV usually shows them together for like one night or something. They were married and slept together for several months.
As I said, Catherine did not claim the marriage was not consummated until Henry tried to get the marriage annulled. It appears neither he nor his father cared and it was only when he needed an excuse to get rid of her that he made the consummation as issue, but having read a lot of stuff on the era myself, I would lean towards her lying to stop the annulment. It doesn't make sense that she never claimed it wasn't consummated until then.
Don't like how every period series in England now seems to need an Upstairs, Downstairs storyline.
And of course it would with this black woman who is somehow Catherine's chief lady and her noble Muslim Moor bodyguard.
It never ceases to amaze me that in the name of feminism and woman power, they have to always try to diminish Ferdinand to try to push Isabella as this great military leader. She never fought in battle in her life. She was a great organizer and ruler, but she didn't plan or execute the successful military campaigns, Ferdinand did and he was actually a Warrior King who fought his whole life in battles and was nearly killed several times in several different wars, from Catalonia to Granada.
Granted, that is one of the least of the problems with the accuracy in these series.
The one thing I do like is that it showed that Catherine consummated her marriage to Arthur and lied about it. Which is almost certainly the case. Despite the tradition of showing otherwise, she never claimed the marriage wasn't consummated until Henry tried to get an annulment.
I'd say, I feel more cheated.
HBO lied to their subscribers for years about making multiple Deadwood movies. Literally for years they said they were making them and just suddenly said, no, we're not. And somehow that doesn't qualify as false advertising.
Then years later they do make a movie and it was awful.
He's been pretty good in some things, awful in others.
Stage actors generally suck.
He can't do an accent to save his life.
You have to be married to be a cuck, but this dude would likely be in that category soon.
It felt like the PG-13 version of Deadwood except 30 years had passed instead of 12 based on how the actors looked.
I don't know how much it cost to make, but it looked like Dr. Quinn Medicine Woman quality.
- He was the son and rightful heir (after Jaime became KG) of Tywin Lannister
- His seizure by Cat started the war
- He was Hand of the King (#2 in the Realm)
- He was convicted of regicide of Joffrey
- He killed Tywin
- Oberyn Martell was killed as his champion.
- He was Dany's Hand
etc...
It's just a very dumb joke the put in.
So really Bran going beyond the wall is what fucked them all over?
And he ends up on the throne as a reward. How interesting.
Which would make the whole massive effort that went into building the Wall by the Children of the Forest, the First Men and the Giants absurd and pointless if that was an option as soon as the WW woke up.
That's convenient.
We'll never be able to verify this because no way in hell will GRRM finish the books in his lifetime.
They said the Golden Company had already been paid for.
That dude from the Iron Bank said they would lend the money if Cersei wanted, so maybe. But presumably there was not only enough Tyrell gold left to pay off their debt, but hire the Golden Company as well. Since Cersei apparently had a wagons full of gold to offer people. That's absurd, but the sum they apparently owed the Iron Bank was ludicrous in the show.
As to how they have any money left in the show after the city burned, one can only assume that they managed to salvage the treasury and whatever Cersei had left and added whatever Dany brought over from Meereen. Which you could fanwank is a lot of money since essentially all the treasure the Dothraki leaders had in Vaes Dothrak was hers and all the wealth in the slave cities had been seized.