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Good points, I find myself watching older movies..some are still more enjoyable than the new stuff. I find it very hard to even sit through 5 mins of today's stuff. I've had several people tell me all they need is an antenna for their TV and YouTube..If there was some great TV show out there like Sopranos, OZ, Breaking Bad we'd hear about it and find a way to watch/(consume lol) it lol. Lucas said the banks/studios won't let anyone be creative, it's just too risky. Like I said they know how to make money, lot's of it. When practically everything starts to fail then there could be changes. Honestly I think another medium is going to hit us soon, this great technology has to give us something..the last two decades it's destroyed movies/music/books/TV and more. They can probably give an out of the world experience..I feel it coming.
Yes, trying to recreate the mood of the 80's is foolhardy at best. Back then, people went to the movies almost every week. It wasn't just the summer movies, there were great movies in October, even February! Not just sci-fi either, there were great action and dramatic flicks as well as other genres. I remember being stationed near Oklahoma City from 87-89, during those 2 years I saw about 40 movies all over that city..just for fun I'd go to a different movie theater until I'd been to them all. Heck, I remember when they built a brand new Cinemaplex right next to the crossroads mall, maybe just 2 miles from where I lived in Moore. It was packed every weekend right from the beginning. I"m just going to spout off 10 movies I saw back then: Batman, Hellraiser, Indy 3, Colors, Rambo 3, Rain Man, No Way Out, Dead Poet's Society, Let it Ride, Mississippi Burning. I think the only movie that really disappointed me was either Leviathan or Tango and Cash, the other 38 movies or so were mostly above average or excellent.
Of course, nowadays is much different. It's not a must thing to go to the movieplex almost every week. Hollywood still knows how to make money, it's just in different ways like going after the overseas markets, toys, and the kiddies. Hollywood is now a bunch of banks, they know how to make money so they won't let the creative people do what they're born to do! All they have to do is make another Star Wars/Trek/Superman/Spiderman movie and they roll in the dough!
I know it's kind of ridiculous to not know they were on an island but I was really young and I guess since they didn't do a flyover of an actual island it didn't register with me. I know it was on an island in the book but I really don't think they had to have that part of the plot in the movie, just not necessary.
Maybe Star Wars still thrives to this day because of geeks and nerds?
I have to admit I was a pretty big fan of the 2nd Star Wars movie, The Empire Strikes Back..but when I saw Return of the Jedi in 1983 I definitely had grown out of it by then. Plus I really didn't think ROTJ was nearly as good as the first two Star Wars movies.
Bottom Line: A lot of adults are still huge fans of Star Wars, they might be pining for their younger years. I'm just not one of them.
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Yes, I too have found several old NOVA episodes on YouTube. Out of curiosity I looked for two specific episodes I saw in the late 80's. One, was about the details of making a new snack food with all the tools, machinery, and endless hours behind it. The other was the science behind building stairs lol. It was actually pretty good and I found out that many stairways are hazardous so I always watch my step.
I guess the ego did get out of control for awhile, there's that clip on youtube where they say Val Kilmer was rude to the Japanese fans during Val's Batman Forever press tour in Tokyo..and that he was fairly rude and condescending during filming of Island of Dr. Moreau.
I can certainly see how it happens, he's in bigger and bigger films..and the stress of trying to keep the quality of the work up increases.
Val is an interesting guy. I don't quite understand him and now it looks like he might be heading for the sunset. Hopefully not.
I was willing to give it a try..I realize now the first Star Wars movies were serendipitious..man, they were great.
Could be, it seems like the opening monologue starts nowadays with 10 straight Trump jokes, with outrageous laughter and then after a joke or two on a different topic it's another 5 straight Trump jokes.
Every late night show is doing bad comedy about Trump. Bill Maher, SNL, Kimmel, Fallon, Myers, and on and on and on and on...
They'll still make a lot of money, they just won't report it.
I also think it today's movie world the studios try hard to make their movies appeal to several markets(US, China, Russia, etc.) all at once. For instance, here in the US we'll see one scene that looks pretty good but 5 minutes later we'll see something that is silly or confusing to US, but this same scene might really make a lot of sense to people watching in China.
In short: These movies are NOT ENTIRELY lost in translation, they are SOMEWHAT lost in translation.
STOP doing the maid!
I agree, Gosling was a big mistake. He just can't carry a film like this.
I think Nolan would have cast it better, thus bringing in a lot more bucks.
I am going to say it sucked, because it sucked. Why?
1. Too Long
2. Bad Casting(do I need to explain this?)
3. Waited too long for sequel(36 years? Really?)
4. Too much Spinners(they really screwed up here)
5. Boring Boring Boring(The death of a film right here fanbois!)
Sci-Fi dying a slow death:
BR 2049 Box Office: 250 million
Thor Ragnarok Box Office: 650 million and rising
I gotta agree the comparison between BR2049 and that stupid Ghostbusters POS is just plain stupid!
Well, he was porking a 13 year old Corey Haim up his arse back in 1985. I imagine Charlie was a catcher too and that's how he caught the ole' AIDS.
Tom Cruise can still make money but you're right, he hasn't made a really good movie since Minority Report. In my book one of the few stars who could bring in the dollars AND make high quality movies was Jack Nicholson.
Of course, Jack's very last movie was a clunker lol.