Ugly people = evil


The better they look, the nicer they get.
While the uglies exploit them.

That's this movie.

Could have been more balanced, IF this theory was not intentional (but it was).

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this movie isn't just about looks, it's about capitalists exploiting poor people. different traits can become one's capital depending on the situation, like good looks (the model characters), entrepreneur skills (the russian oligarch), or the practical/survival skills that come in handy for the cleaning lady in the final act.

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That is the obvious theme, of course it's there.
I was just pointing out the one that is less obvious.

No law forcing evil people to be ugly, yet every evil person in this movie is ugly.
The uglier they look, the more evil they behave.
And all the good ones are good looking, the better they look, the better they are.
The final confrontation is good vs evil, not just capitalism exploiting others.

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that doesn't make any sense, as there's nothing in the movie that suggests "the uglier, the more evil". apart from the model couple who would generally be considered good looking (and they are portrayed as exploitative, too), none of the people are objectively ugly, they are just average looking people.
if there's a connection in the movie between looks and how "evil" people are, it would rather be the other way around: the evil of the so called "pretty privilege" - good looking people abusing the power that comes with their attractivness, as shown in the scene were the model guy causes one of the workers to get fired.

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he's trolling you, man. and you're falling for it.

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It is a comment on how entitled and abusive the 1% are (and not always attractive) while how out of touch and totally unaware that they are.

But the last third seems to suggest that the have nots and the underprivileged can also become entitled and unpleasant if the tables are turned. Too much power doesn't look too good for anyones soul.

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Look more attentively at the people and their actions.
See who is good, less, evil etc and see what they look like.

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the cleaning lady was a poor, oppressed woman on the boat, but powerful on the island. according to your theory, she must have turned ugly, once they stranded on the island, thus becoming evil. but no, her looks didn't change. it's the situation that changed and how she's now able to use her individual skills to gain power and become the leader of the group.
same goes for the male model. he had been inferior to his girlfriend because in the model industry there's a higher demand for female models. but on the island that didn't count anymore: in this new matriarchic system, he could now sleep his way up, so he's become more powerful than his model girlfriend.

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What are you talking about?

I specifically said the opposite of what you wrote, nothing about power or poverty.
I wrote about looks and evil.

The cleaning lady was an evil cunt on the boat too, only she had no chance to show it.
Etc. Read MY posts again.

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how do you define "evil"? and again, looks are subjective. i have given you various examples how your theory is wrong, while you haven't given even one (!) proper example to back up your own theory. we can play this game all day long...

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Evil: somebody that bullies others, uses his power over others, plots against other's wellbeing, makes others do what they don't want to do, takes from others, hurts others.

Ugly: all the evil people in this movie. The uglier, the eviler.

Look, the hot couple at the end is not only good but is also generous and is taken advantage of /killed by the evilest character in the movie.

The head stewardess, also good looking, is clearly good and tries her best on and off the boat.

The rich people, the uglier they look, the worse they are on and off the boat.

It seems to me that the obvious "rich people are evil, poor people are good, reverse it after the shipwreck" tale is just a superficial layer of the film.
It's just what's most obvious and it's the first thing noticeable.
But if you look at it more deeply, like I am suggesting, you should (paradoxically) notice the appearance of the people involved, and understand that what is happening is NOT rich vs poor, but good looking vs ugly.


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thanks, i still agree to disagree though.

Evil: ...uses his power over others, plots against other's wellbeing...


i've already mentioned the example of the male model causing one of the workers to get fired. he's good-looking and his status allows him to use power over somebody else.

Ugly: all the evil people in this movie. The uglier, the eviler.


as mentioned as well, there are no objectively ugly people in this movie. most of the rich people are old (because obviously the older people get, the more time they have to accumulate power and wealth), but that doesn't mean they're ugly. some of them might have been even handsome when they were young.

Look, the hot couple at the end is not only good but is also generous and is taken advantage of /killed by the evilest character in the movie.


as suggested several times now, they weren't portrayed as good throughout the movie. they were selfish and took advantage of others as well. even amongst each other: the whole first part of the movie was to show how the girl took advantage of her "female model privilege" over her "inferior" male model boyfriend.

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also, in the end, the female model wasn't generous at all. by offering the cleaning lady an assistant job she just tried to save her own ass. from the moment she realized that the cleaning lady has no advantage in going back to civilization, she knew the cleaning lady won't just let her walk into that elevator, so she came up with a seemingly sympathatic offer. she's just following her pattern of manipulating people for her own good, something that was established early on in the film.

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That's preposterous. You misread the whole dynamic.
The model figured they were out of that nightmare, and being a GOOD person she wanted to do something nice for that awful cunt, even in spite of how horrible she had been, because she also was thankful for her help and wanted to help her in return, after surviving such an ordeal together.
Again, in spite of how the cleaning person behaved. The model was willing to look over that.

She had no fucking clue that "the cleaning lady won't just let her walk into that elevator".
1, the model was fit and bigger than that old cunt, and could have taken her down any time. She simply had no clue that there was any such danger there. Being a GOOD person she probably wouldn't even think that such malice would even exist, and certainly she would not understand it.
2, if she did feel like you wrongly believe, why would she ever trust the ugly woman and look away for such a long time, giving her an opportunity to assault her?

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"a good person"?! her offer would put the model back on top and the cleaning lady from her now master role back into a servant role.
and even if the model sincerely meant to do something good for once - in a naive-not-realizing-the-cynical-smack-of-her-offer-kind-of-way - she still had been a manipulative unlikeable person throughout the rest of the movie, so either-way your theory is false.

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No, her offer would take that lousy useless uneducated evil cunt and give her a more respectable position with less stress and more money.
And she would do that in the real world.

So far she was quite allright, I saw not much manipulation from her, and compared to every single other character in the movie, she delivered the least.
Or do you believe in perfect people?

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It's about power dynamics. It flew over your head.

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Have you not read the thread or you just popped in with the most obvious theme disregarding everything I already wrote about it?

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oh, I read through them until you started repeating yourself, and ignoring what everybody was telling you.

.........woooooooOOOOOOooooosh...........

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Seems like YOU are completely ignoring and repeating...

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low bait trolling. try to be more clever, hun

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Have you even seen the movie?

You are trolling here, asshat.
Go troll somewhere else.

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"no, u"

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I don't think that this class struggle line should be taken at face value. The treatment felt tongue-in-cheek and if this is not intended, then it turned out too rudimentary to impress. "Parasite" did a better treatment, but it is a more boring movie.

I liked it, it is a fun watch, but not much to remember.

7/10

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That's why I think the intended target went deeper than the class battle.

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Maybe it is something in line with "rocking the boat", but there is no moral in that. But then maybe the didn't care about the moral, but rather about capturing the zeitgeist.

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