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[SPOILER] I enjoy the show but the last episode of season 1 took me out....


OH COME ON!!!

Robby is able to make it to competitive level?

Also, Robby decided to continue to fight with an injury.
How is Miguel in the wrong.

I would take advantage of that injury all damn day.

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Using that logic, you should have stopped watching all the films since the original. In that movie, Daniel did not start his training until Nov since Miyagi beat up Johnny and his goons at the Halloween HS party. The tournament was on Dec 19th. Daniel had tops just 6 weeks of training yet is able to win a tournament where most competitors already competed the year before, including Johnny who was the defending champion. Makes no logical sense Daniel was able to even win a round

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Plus, even in the original film, Johnny clearly knows it's wrong when Kreese tells him to attack Daniel's injured leg for the win.

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A brief moment of honor from Johnny who clearly wanted to win fairly and perhaps even knew he might be causing serious damage to Daniel.

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Plus, Johnny congratulated Daniel for the win. “You’re all right, LaRusso!” Also, as a side note, Bobby showed signs of being a good person a couple times. He tried to stop Johnny from going too far during the Halloween ass kicking. And, when he kung fu’d Daniel’s knee, he immediately repented.

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Johnny was ready to straight up murder Daniel for spraying him with water. Lol.

Yeah, Bobby had the best conscience of the group. Johnny came around once Daniel made a respectable fight at the tournament.

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"Makes no logical sense Daniel was able to even win a round"

Realistically and logically, you are probably right, it's hard to imagine a hot-headed amateur winning against black belts that have trained their muscles, reflexes, sparred a lot, learned from their mistakes for all that time.

However, sometimes the win is not the math. I mean, 'number of years' doesn't always 100% dictate the outcome. I once met a dog handler that claimed she had had dogs for 24 years, so she knows what she's doing, and then she was being walked by a small dog (with three 'crazy' follower dogs), that suddenly shot out like a cannon, and ran away, and she panicked and started screaming the dog's name, trying to frantically run after that dog (you never use the dog's name when the dog is in a bad state or when you are trying to control the dog).

I saw what was going on with their really imbalanced pack with a nervous dog being forced into a pack leader role without her having a clue of what was happening and what she created. But because of math, she's the expert and master..

What really wins, at least sometimes, is the focus, the inner fire, the passion, the sheer willpower. I know it's not realistic most of the time, but just SOMEtimes, it's at least plausible, that less-trained but internally more powerful fighter will win against a 'let's do this lazy exercize for years in a robotic manner without any emotion'-type 'many years' black belt.

Sometimes people give black belts too easily, there are so many 'macdojos' that teach absolutely nothing useful and yet give black belts, there are bad teachers, and then there's the whole 'Taekwondo is useless in a MMA/UFC-type fight'.

Youtubers have pointed out that Taekwondo kicks are shiny, flashy, but ultimately relatively weak, they don't hit that hard, because 'point fighting' doesn't require power, just speed and accuracy. So while the kicks may look amazing, they don't deliver a lot of power or energy.

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So if you put a relatively inexperienced 'trained for power and intuitive reaction with speed and focus' against 'point-fighter that knows the precise moves but has no power', it's POSSIBLE that the inexperienced one will win.

Now, winning in a tournament against experienced martial artists that many times, yeah.. it's kind of implausible to say the least.

However, the very LAST kick is actually, as silly as it is, explainable, when you observe it carefully.

Johnny is a bit confused, as his own ethics are at odds with Kreese's brutal, inhuman advice, he also doesn't know what the goal is anymore, now that LaRusso has already been hurt, he has no direction, his thinking is hazy, clouded, filled with uncertainty and opposing ideals. He's not focused.

If you look at him, he is hesitant, unsure, confused, completely 'not in the moment'.

Now compare to Daniel-san, who is in the moment, extremely focused, assessing the situation calmly and effectively, and strikes at the EXACT right moment.

Sometimes it's the FOCUS that wins, being in the moment being the key. Not thinking, yet not dreaming.

Johnny was thinking and dreaming and doing all the wrong things internally, which then resulted him doing the wrong things outwardly as well. Daniel-san was in the zone, he was internally stronger in that moment, so he won.

Sure, it's not all that realistic, but some of it is at least somewhat plausible, when you consider all factors and really think about it.

To add, it IS a movie, after all. Movies are known to be unrealistic in this world..

Those movies are not even close to being AS unrealistic and implausible as all the fema-fascist movies, where tiny, no-muscle, no-training girls EASILY beat up huge crowds of tall, muscular, clearly combat-trained men. EASILY. So if you want to nitpick the 'realism' about who would actually win, maybe go after THOSE movies, first..

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Just finished season 2 and ran here to see if anyone felt the same way about the S1 tournament.

Robby CHOSE to compete with an injury. It's not really fair to expect his opponent to take it easy on him. A shoulder injury means Miguel needs to avoid like half his body. It's not fair or reasonable to expect Miguel to worry about an injury when he's trying to fight. Robby should've tapped out if it was that bad.

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