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Question re: mid-credits scene

posted 2 years ago by [deleted]
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Sorry, if this has already been mentioned...

Brock/Venom slide into the MCU with Venom confused about how it happened. Were they drawn in by Dr. Strange's multiverse spell in No Way Home? Has there been a hint or a rumour that Venom might pop up in No Way Home?

[–] subratjain1 (203) 2 years ago

I have the same question. And how did they teleported to a different place suddenly?

[–] Nate Adams SA23 (897) 2 years ago

Spoilers******* please tell me why the detective had glowy eyes at the end there. *****

[–] Moonglum9 (10736) 3 months ago

Part of Carnage got absorbed by him is my take.

[–] DracTarashV2 (4475) 2 years ago

Has there been a hint or a rumour that Venom might pop up in No Way Home?

I mean apart from the mid-credits themselves, is that picture of Tom Hardy from back in September that showed him wearing a No Way Home production hat (same one given to the whole cast and crew of No Way Home). That pic (which was later deleted) had a number of fans convinced that Hardy was going to appear in No Way Home, however a lot of people still didn’t buy it. But after Venom 2 was released? Well, even more people became convinced about Venom’s involvement in the film. Like there’s zero doubt for many at this point.

Now there’s still a chance the Lethal Protector won’t show up in No Way Home, although I think him popping up in the film (even if it’s only a brief appearance) is far more likely than unlikely.

And yeah, right now the belief is Strange’s spell is the reason Eddie & Venom (as well as all the other visitors) were transported to the MCU. It’s also possible the events of Loki will be tied-in, yet not many seem to think that’s the case anymore based on No Way Home’s trailers. I believe there’s more to it myself, but we’ll find out soon enough.

Update after No Way Home: turns out a certain leak about his involvement in No Way Home, which I found out about a few days after I wrote this, proved to be true. This leak prepared me for disappointment, so to take a page out of MJ’s book, I guess I wasn’t THAT disappointed. It was still a funny appearance but man it would have been so cool to see Hardy stick around in the MCU and have that Tom H vs Tom H showdown many wanted to see. Maybe it’ll still happen or maybe Marvel will have their own (non-Tom Hardy) Eddie Brock. We’ll see

[–] [deleted] 2 years ago

I have a personal theory that No Way Home will end with Peter Parker/Spiderman in the Sony-verse. A number of developments tease the possibility.

i. Holland has said his Marvel contract is up after No Way Home.

ii. Most people think No Way Home refers to the appearance of the villains who can't return to their previous Spider-universes. I think it refers to Holland's Spiderman ending up some place where HE can't return home, i.e. he ends up in the Sony-verse, unable to return to the MCU-verse. Perhaps the movie ends with a quick appearance by Venom, the two do battle and fall through one of those portal-thingies that closes up behind them and POOF... Venom and Spiderman end up permanently in the Sony-verse?

iii. Marvel almost lost the Spiderman property a couple of years ago because of the end of the arrangement they had with Sony. Suddenly, things got patched up pretty quickly and a new agreement was in place. Some people openly wondered what was in it for Sony. So maybe a three way deal between Sony, Marvel and Holland came to be.

iv. The recent Morbius trailer revealed that Spiderman does exists in the Sony verse.

v. This leaves MCU free to introduce the Miles Morales version of the character but leaves fans happy that it doesn't mean the death of Holland's version.

Pure speculation on my part, but all the pieces fit together nicely.

[–] ExTechOp (2758) 2 years ago

Turns out it was mostly just a gag

Eddie and Venom were brought over to the MCU by Strange’s spell, even though it shouldn’t have applied to them.

But their only MCU appearance was in the mid-credits of “No Way Home,” where they’re getting briefed on the MCU by a hotel bartender.

They got sent back to the Sonyverse before they even left the resort.

It's sort of a let-down, but at least it lets us know, unambiguously, that the Sonyverse and MCU exist in different realities, but characters could potentially cross over.

Oh, almost forgot, Venom leaves a drop of black symbiote behind in the MCU

[–] hurricane (1915) 2 years ago

Yeah, it was a shame. I'd love to see Hardy and Holland on screen together, but I can see why they went this way with it.

Really, you need to see Spiderman face a villain version of Venom. Which is not really how Hardy is playing it. You can't really have Tom Hardy turn heel on Spiderman, because it would harm any standalone Venom sequels now they've established him as a hero over two movies.

Leaving a bit of black symbiote behind lets the MCU establish their own Venom for Spiderman to fight. And that way, you also don't have to spend as much time establishing Venom as a character. Tobey Maguire's Spiderman 3 seemed to take forever establishing Venom, only for him to be fairly easily defeated in the end. Now Venom has been established, and what black symbiote can do has been established, that won't necessarily be a problem for Tom Holland's next movie.