MovieChat Forums > Avengers: Infinity War (2018) Discussion > Marvel Wants You To Forget Infinity War'...

Marvel Wants You To Forget Infinity War's Ending Was Star-Lord's Fault


https://screenrant.com/guardians-galaxy-starlord-infinity-war-ending-hero/

Star-Lord made a mistake in Avengers: Infinity War that helped Thanos win, but Marvel doesn't want audiences blaming him for it anymore.

reply

Except it wasn't his fault. Dr. Strange said he'd looked at over 14 million possible futures, and there was only one where Thanos didn't ultimately prevail -- and that's the one that played out in Endgame. From this we can infer that even if the heroes had gotten the gauntlet off of Thanos' fist, he would simply have defeated them at some other point in the near future and taken it back.

reply

Correct, that had to happen for the only possible good outcome to come through!

Plus, we knew Quill was massively immature, and we knew why, so it's not like we're so disappointed in him we stopped liking the character.

reply

If they destroyed time stone first, how could Thanos possibly win?

So at least there is that much easier way.

reply

Destroyed it how? It's an Infinity Stone. Remember, that even Thanos, stronger than all of them combined, needed to use all 6 Infinity Stones to destroy the Stones, and doing so nearly killed him.

reply

Scarlet witch destroyed mind stone before Thanos got to it, but of course due to time stone that did not work.

So it can be done, not as difficult as you think, just need to know the right way to whack it. I was thinking of Thor's hammer.

reply

She could only do that because she is a part of the Mind Stone... it created her powers. I don't think she could have destroyed any of the other stones, or at least that was the implication of the film.

I think the real proof is that Doctor Strange made it clear that he watched over 14 million outcomes, and they only defeated Thanos in one, which means that what they did was the *only* way to beat him. So even if it were possible to destroy the Time Stone, which again, I don't think it was, it wouldn't have mattered. I could be wrong, and maybe Wanda could have destroyed it, but given that it was in space and she was on Earth, there was likely no way for them to destroy it before Thanos got it.

reply

She could only do that because she is a part of the Mind Stone... it created her powers.

The movie did not say that, you are making it up.

None of the movies said anything about the stones were indestructible, they could at least try something first, Thor's hammer looked just about right.

reply

No, it clearly implied that it was her connection to the stone that gave her the power to destroy it. Thor's hammer would have had no effect on an Infinity Stone, and again, Thor was not on the planet where the Time Stone was.

reply

Exactly where did the movie say that?

reply

Also by that logic wouldn't that mean Dr. Strange can destroy time stone? I mean they are both sorcerers and they both have connections to their stones.

reply

He's a normal human who has learned how to use magic. He has no special connection to the Time Stone, he just happens to own it. Wanda is a normal human who was turned into a superhuman by the Mind Stone. It's powers are a part of her.

You're forgetting that it's all moot anyway, because even if they could have destroyed the Time Stone, it would not have mattered, because the only way they could win was to let Thanos have it.

reply

because even if they could have destroyed the Time Stone, it would not have mattered, because the only way they could win was to let Thanos have it.

They say that and you just believe it without any questions?

How could Thanos possibly win without time stone?

Do you really think everything would have destined to happen, after Thanos had the time stone?

reply

Wanda is a normal human who was turned into a superhuman by the Mind Stone.

No, mind stone triggered her mutation, she had the X genes, and was just activated by external forces.

Her power was not from the stone, it was from her mutation.

Wanda and her brother were mutants.

reply

I mean, they had his Glove off inching right off of his hand and everything was Golden til Quill developed a conscience of sorts.. In an alternate world, he never did this, the glove came off THANOS hand and the good guys would've won

reply

No, you're missing what I'm saying. I am saying that even if Quill hadn't lost his temper and thrown their plan awry, that wouldn't have got them victory, because if they get it off, they still have to deal with this incredibly powerful superbeing, who is stronger than all of them put together, and he's not going to stop -- he's going to keep coming after them, and take the gauntlet back.

And Quill doesn't develop a conscience, he gets angry when he finds out Gamora has been murdered by Thanos, and he stops following the plan.

reply

Seriously? No one is going to forget that. What a maroon.

reply