If he's "pansexual", then that means fucking anything and anyONE, of any age. And that idiot Jon Kasdan has stated this proudly in a tweet, just in time for FAMILIES to go watch this movie.
Smart move, Kooky Kasdan.
Pansexual means all sexes, not all ages.
sharePansexual means he fucks everything, from a toaster to a pizza, including chickens (nuggets included), cans of beer, robots, vacuum cleaners, burguers, parrots, pigs, kathleen kennedy, rian johnson, and of course children and kittens.
It doesn't seem very real, but hey, there's people who identify themselves as unicorns. So who knows?
Anyway, I agree with the L3-37 theory: Lando was made a "robot-lover" as a kind of damage control to boost L3-37 character, who was (likely) a SJW parody in the original Phil Lord view.
Pansexual cannot mean all that because the pan in pansexual means all, and the sexual in pansexual means biological sex (chromosomes).
What you are describing is actually called an omniphile.
If pansexual meant you want to have sex with everything, then homosexual would mean you want to have sex with someone exactly like you like an identical twin or a clone, and heterosexual would mean something completely bizarre as in whatever the opposite of a human is.
I get it. It's a simple misunderstanding of what the "sexual" means in those terminologies. People assume it means attraction, but now you know it doesn't. Attraction is "philia." And it's opposite, fear, is "phobia."
Yeap, I know, and I agree with you, it's not a sexual orientation. If it exists, it's some kind of fetische. Like people who are turn on by old ladies, or black rubber, or feet, or wearing diapers, or kathleen kennedy. Kinky stuff. Indeed, being turn on by a robot is not pansexuality (if that exists), it's robot fetichism:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robot_fetishism
Nothing bad with it, of course, though I think that while "fetische" is used for something kinky, or weird, but not necessarily unhealthy, the suffix "-philia" is used (grosso modo) when that attraction can be considered mentally unhealthy, like "necrophilia", or "pedophilia", or "kathleenkennedyphilia".
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Or they'd be desperately trying to defend his feminist SEXBOT
Funny is that feminists campaign against sexbots, but here they defend it... as long as the sexbot behaves as a feminist.
More neotribalism.
This is not gonna end well.
We didn't see any evidence that L3 was Lando's sexbot though. All we saw was that L3 assumed Lando was sexually interested in her, and we saw no evidence of that either, just strange looks from Qi'Ra thinking L3 was full of it. When L3 died, yeah, Lando was upset. He had compassion for her, but that's a far stretch from sexual interest. It seems the "pansexual" comment is driving people to take L3's word for it. But I think it's all in L3's imagination, as she is a parody of an SJW who desperately wants to be more important than she actually is.
Then the OP even takes it a step further with the pedophile nonsense. Yikes.
Yeap, the whole thing is a kinda mess. And it doesn't even make sense as a marketing strategy: if you wanna have parents bringing kids to the movies, talking about sexbots and pansexuality doesn't seem like the best way to do it.
There I agree with Ethan Van Sciver's theory: if L3·37 as portrayed by Lord&Weitz looked like a delusional SJW, there could have been some orders coming from KK to make officially Lando pansexual or robot-fetichist, and this way, to make L3·37 look less delusional (-> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QySwIR6-K3E minute 7:35)
Though that "pansexuality" was not really portrayed in the movie, perhaps Ron Howards have more balls than we thought, and what we have now is that Lando is officially pansexual, no matter the movie doesn't show it.
Damn, the story behind the movie has better intrigue than the movie itself.
Too many PC terms these days to define everyone and everything. There are new definitions and pronouns for people every week it seems like.
I just choose to ignore all of the nonsense.
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I didn't take L3's word for it that Lando was into her. I saw it as L3 misinterpreting Lando's respect and compassion as love or sexuality. Her assumption that Lando was sexually interested in her was part of her desire to be more important than she was. It was all part of her being a parody of an SJW.
shareWhat an INSULT to black moviegoers to have their ONE character inclusion in the Star Wars original universe turned into a FREAK.
There's only two sexes, so then he would be bisexual...
shareWhich is why society treats them as the same thing. Pansexuality accurately includes hermaphrodites and chromosomal anomalies. Bisexuality kinda sweeps them under the rug.
shareNo it doesn't. Hermaphrodites are people born with both genetalia. They are still hormonally male or female. Being attracted to them on those grounds makes you either gay, straight, or bisexual.
Chromosomal anomaloes have nothing to do with sex, and therefore being attracted to someone with a missing chromosome for example, does not disclude them from being counted as male or female. So being attracted to them despite their chromosome deficiency, still makes you either gay, straight, or bisexual.
I don't know why this is treated as more complicated than it actually is these days. Both men and women can suffer biological imperfections. That does not mean they are separate from the male/female paradigm. The HORMONE is the deciding factor here. Not the chromosome.
Chromosomes have everything to do with sex. "Two sexes" applies to the rule of the Y chromosome. If there is a Y, it is male. If there is no Y, it is female. Bisexuality goes by that rule of Y. Pansexuality goes into more detail beyond X's and Y's. That's all there is to it, but it still ends up in the same place as bisexuality.
Basing it on hormones is stupid. If you fill an XY chromosomed human who is 100% male with estrogen, that does not make him bisexual or female or transsexual or anything like that. I mean, what the fuck?
"Chromosomes have everything to do with sex. "Two sexes" applies to the rule of the Y chromosome. If there is a Y, it is male. If there is no Y, it is female."
We aren't talking about sex, we're talking about hormones. Straight men are attracted to transgender females, because they are taking hormones (estrogen) to alter the one they were born with (testosterone).
"Bisexuality goes by that rule of Y. Pansexuality goes into more detail beyond X's and Y's. That's all there is to it, but it still ends up in the same place as bisexuality. "
There is no "Beyond the rule of X's and Y's". X's and Y's encompass the entire fabric of the species. Gender politics does not get to transcend basic biology.
"Basing it on hormones is stupid. If you fill an XY chromosomed human who is 100% male with estrogen, that does not make him bisexual or female or transsexual or anything like that. I mean, what the fuck?"
That is the LITERAL DEFINITION of transexual. Pumping yourself with the opposite hormone makes you transexual. It's in the fucking word. You are transitioning your sex. Hence transexual.
And no one said changing your sex made you bisexual. I don't know how in the living fuck you got that out of what I said. Unless he is attracted to both male and female, he would be either straight or gay.
That is the LITERAL DEFINITION of transexual. Pumping yourself with the opposite hormone makes you transexual.No, it isn't. A transsexual is someone who has gone through sexual reassignment surgery to modify their sex organs.
"No, it isn't. A transsexual is someone who has gone through sexual reassignment surgery to modify their sex organs. "
That's impossible. Even after sexual reassignment surgery, you aren't just magically given working organs to alter your sex.
"You are describing transgenderism, but even then there's no rule that you have to go on hormones to become a transgender. Many transgenders accomplish it with surgery, and some even accomplish it just with hair and makeup. "
You just contradicted yourself. You made the distinction between transgender and transexual, pointing to the fact that transexuals go through surgery, while transgenders just take hormones, and then in the very next sentence, you say that "some even accomplish it just with hair and makeup." So first you need to undergo sex reassignment surgery, but now all you need to do is to wear makeup? Um no. That's not how it works. Men who dress up as women without taking any hormones are called cross dressers or drag queens. They are not transgender in any way shape or form. How do I have to spoonfeed you these most basic common sense facts?
"It all depends on their natural ability to pass, but most of all it depends on the willingness of society to accept them as a different gender. "
So if they are unable to "pass" (and this is getting into really blurry territory since there's no "scale" to measure this and it all depends on an arbitrary opinion met by the rest of society), then by your logic, they aren't transexual? is that what you're saying? That to be transexual, is entirely contingent on how "passable" the rest of society sees you? Are you dense?
"Of course, I'm talking to the guy who thinks it's impossible to own machine guns because of the 1986 ban."
And? I really don't want to get into a gun debate here and I can see you're trying to change the subject on account of your faulty argument, but you can't legally own a machine gun without having it registered with the federal government. You're telling me I'm wrong?
"That's impossible. Even after sexual reassignment surgery, you aren't just magically given working organs to alter your sex."
I stated in a few posts above that the "sexual" applies to more than just chromosomes. It also applies to genitalia.
"So first you need to undergo sex reassignment surgery, but now all you need to do is to wear makeup? Um no. That's not how it works."
Good lord. I said sexual reassignment surgery is required to be a transsexual. To be a "transgender," all you need to do is make yourself appear as a different gender. Every transsexual is a transgender, but not every transgender is a transsexual. Ed Wood, for example, was a crossdresser. Crossdressers are transgenders, but they are not transsexuals. Transgender is the all-encompassing term that is the T in the LGBT community.
It really is up to society on whether or not a person passes as the other gender. The LGBT community and SJWs are trying to change that to force people to think of all transgenders as the gender of their choosing, but that's where SJWs hit a wall. You can't force people to think that way. You can, however, force the law to call you a transsexual, but that would require you to change your sexual organs.
I made that point about you and guns because of your tendency to skip over details. It's very frustrating.
"I stated in a few posts above that the "sexual" applies to more than just chromosomes. It also applies to genitalia. "
And hormones...
"Good lord. I said sexual reassignment surgery is required to be a transsexual. To be a "transgender," all you need to do is make yourself appear as a different gender. "
I know you said that. I'm saying why you're wrong. Dressing up as a woman does not make one transgender. There is literally no transitioning taking place. I don't know what on earth gave you the opinions you have but everything you're saying doesn't make a lick of sense and none of it runs parallel to anything else you're arguing. It's a mess.
Any man can dress as a woman. That in itself does not make one transgender. Even if they FEEL like a woman, unless they act on altering their hormones, they are not transgender. They can't be. The gender is entirely dependent on the hormone. It's IN THE FUCKING NAME! TRANS (change) GENDER (sexual identity). If they aren't changing their sex, they aren't transgender. They are classified as cross dressers or drag queens. You cant just start applying foreign meanings to established terms.
"Ed Wood, for example, was a transvestite. Transvestite is in the transgender camp, but is not in the transsexual camp. "
False. Transvestite is in the drag queen/cross dresser camp. No man that dresses as a woman has taken any steps to try and be one. It's entirely aesthetic.
"I made that point about you and guns because you don't pay attention to the finer details."
What details am I not paying attention to?
You just refuse to understand that transgender is a blanket term. Transgender is what you call every form of attempt to look like the other gender, whether it's hair, makeup, hormones, sexual reassignment surgery, or simply just clothes.
Transvestites, crossdressers, transsexuals... they are all specific types of transgenders. Transgender puts them all in one category as to address all of them with one term without leaving one of them out of a conversation.
"What details am I not paying attention to?"
Well, an hour ago you believed transsexual and transgender were the same thing. That's definitely one of them.
"You just refuse to understand that transgender is a blanket term. Transgender is what you call every form of attempt to look like the other gender, whether it's hair, makeup, hormones, sexual reassignment surgery, or simply just clothes. "
You just refuse to understand that if there is no transitioning taking place, then they are not trans anything. Unless you're actually changing your gender, through hormones or reassignment surgery, then by definition, you can not be transgender. Because you haven't changed your gender. You're just dressing up as the other one. How fucking dense do you have to be to not understand this? What about the people that routinely dress up as the other gender one day, and then revert back the next? Are they trans-transgender? Do you see how idiotic you're making this?
"Transvestites, crossdressers, transsexuals... they are all specific types of transgenders. Transgender puts them all in one category as to address all of them with one term without leaving one of them out of a conversation. "
I feel like we're running around in circles at this point. Transvestites, cross dressers, and drag queens, are all in their own separate camp. They are not trans anything just because they play dressup. This has to be one of the most absurd things I've ever heard on this board so far. Talk to ANY drag queen in downtown Toronto and ask them if they're transgender and watch them laugh in your face. Completely ludicrous.
"Well, an hour ago you believed transsexual and transgender were the same thing. That's definitely one of them."
No it isn't. I'm still saying that. Contrary to your assertion that by virtue of putting on a makeup, you've crossed over into the realm of transgender. As if that's all it takes to switch genders. Just put on a wig and some Louboutins and you're set. Incredible.
Transgender puts them all in one category as to address all of them with one term without leaving one of them out of a conversation.
"No it isn't. I'm still saying that."
Since you still believe transsexual and transgender are identical terms, that's a shining example of a detail you are happy to ignore, just like your original claim that it was ILLEGAL (you put it in caps) to own a machine gun. I see you've updated it to acknowledge you can LEGALLY purchase one by filling out ATF documents and the $200 fee. Perhaps some day you will get there with transsexual and transgender meaning two different things. But as of now, you are one ignorant son of a bitch.
"Transgender puts them all in one category as to address all of them with one term without leaving one of them out of a conversation. "
No. "Queer" would be the umbrella term. Transgender has a specific purpose to the word. None of which has anything to do with dressing up.
"Since you still believe transsexual and transgender are identical terms, that's a shining example of a detail you are happy to ignore."
Me showing you why you're wrong, is not me ignoring details, It's you applying details to which none exist.
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He's a fucking idiot.
shareLando only showed interest in women in this movie anyway. He never seemed to want to get with L3 as most of their screentime consisted of him being annoyed by her or ignoring her all together. She claimed he was in love with her, which got a "yeah, sure he is" sort of reaction from Qi'ra.
It's a lot of noise over nothing.