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@landofree So what is your counterargument to the notion "Why does any character need to be a specific gender?" Why did Anakin "need" to be a guy? It was a decision by the writer, a fairly arbitrary decision. There is no reason that Anakin "needed" to be a guy unless you can pose me a reason why his masculinity is integral to the plot. (If Anakin were a girl, she could have babies with a man, for instance, and it wouldn't change anything).

In conclusion, the question is utterly irrelevant because the gender is arbitrary and not a key factor in the plot in any significant way. Rey did not need to be a girl just as much as Anakin did not need to be a boy.

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Selecting the gender is never arbitrary to great writers.

Then you'll be happy to explain why Luke has to be male... Even though he was originally planned to be female.

Oh wait, you've not only dodged that question already, but also declared in the topic that you will never answer that question.

You're a lying hypocrite troll.

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Why is Luke male? Because Luke is an extension of George Lucas, and he is writing from the perspective a being a boy from a desolate farm area. George Lucas was from Modesto, which might as well be Tatooine. George Lucas did not want to work for his father's business, just like Luke didn't want to be stuck working the moisture farm. Luke wanted to got to the academy, George wanted to got away to USC. Luke's name is Luke, short for Lucas. Writer's write what they know, and George knows what it's basically like to be a young man from nowhere who aspires for more.

I could get into other points, about his influences and inspirations for Star Wars and Luke, but I think you need to read up and educate yourself, and not have a stranger like me do it for you. I can school you if you want, but that would be embarrassing for you in this public forum.

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The real question should be "Why isn't Rey a transgender character?"

Short answers like: "because" and "why would she?" or "Why did the character need to be a transgender?" are not acceptable. Give me a reasoned answer, if you can. Questions are not answers. Go...

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she is the new Luke Skywalker, the new protagonist who is walking the same road to Jedi-dom and self-mastery that Luke did. This is an interesting plot device, introducing new blood to the story that might lead up to a re-introduction of the beloved Luke, whom we'd then get to see as a full-fledged Jedi.

her being a girl, in and of itself, would not be bad writing if it weren't for the fact that her exceptional skills make no sense in the context of how her character was written:

she is a prole, and the offspring of proles, without the genetic material for greatness of the caliber she is made out to be. It was already established that Jedi potential is inherited. It's possible that she's simply a freak, but it's so unlikely that it's stupid.

Her character becomes even more ridiculous and fartworthy when almost overnight, she learns skills that took Luke Skywalker a long time and intensive training. And she also manages, without training, to psychically fend off a mind-rape from the Emperor's top man (Kylo Ren). This is ridiculous, like an eighteen-year-old boxing novice beating up a Navy SEAL.

Given these details, she is not believable. Oh, and even though she makes her living working in a fucking garbage dump in the hot sun, apparently in a place like a third-world country, she looks like a painstakingly pampered Disney starlet.

No sunburns? No blisters? No dirt? No shitty hygeine? No lack of education apparent in her speech? Where'd she learn to talk like that? Where'd she learn to read? Where are all the men looking to pork her? Who protects her?

Rey needed to be a girl because it would make money. And it would make money because most people aren't smart enough to notice that her character is badly written, they just see that it's "a new Luke Skywalker, but a girl this time." Plus many people buy into the lie that men and women are interchangeable, and this indulges that belief.

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It was already established that Jedi potential is inherited.

It was already established that Jedi potential shows up in anyone, and that Jedi students are handed over by their families.

Anakin's mother was not a Jedi, for example. Qui-Gon Jinn stated that they search all over for Force-sensitive children. If they came from Force families, they would be easy to find.

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Anakin was an immaculate conception for the sole reason of producing a Jedi prodigy.

have fun deepthroating anything in the culture that pushes your gay Leftist agenda, broseph.

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Yes, Anakin shows that the Force can give power to anyone, even creating them.

Second sentence is weak trolling, thanks for proving you're another loser not worth listening to.

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no, you're not listening, Anakin's immaculate conception shows that all the Jedis we know of have inherited their talent at it. I'm not a Star Wars nerd, this is like basic storytelling that I've gleaned from just incidental shit I've gathered here and there. so you're either stupid or lying to push some kind of agenda. I'm pretty sure you're duplicitously lying, and I don't respect that. which are you?

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Anakin's immaculate conception shows that all the Jedis we know of have inherited their talent at it.

Anakin didn't inherit it, which completely disproves your point. The Force can put Force powers into anyone. It can even create them. That's what happened there.

We know of more Jedis than Anakin. There were three prequels full of them. Very few of them are noted to have Force powers through heredity. I see Plo Koon and Darth Maul are both considered to have inherited their powers.

Darth Sidious AKA Emperor Palpatine came from a political family that had NO Force powers. His siblings and his parents had no sensitivity.

Palpatine was a super-powerful random Force birth. He is considered THE most powerful Sith and yet DIDN'T come from a Force sensitive family.

If the Force was ONLY inherited like you claim, why weren't Kenobi and Yoda out there procreating to make new Jedi and take down the Empire instead of living like hermits for decades? Why did they put all their eggs in the Luke basket? (Well, Luke WAS a huge Gary Stu, but see it's allowed for guys to be blatant wish-fulfillment characters)
Why wasn't Palpatine having kids to ensure his Sith lineage lived on?

You're far too focused on your agenda to even try verifying your points online or even thinking about the implications. Fact of the matter is that Lucas wasn't sure how he wanted the Force to work, he wasn't sure of a LOT in this series.

Darth Vader wasn't even Luke's father when A New Hope was written. That's why Kenobi "lied." Luke's father was going to reappear, surprisingly alive, and help the Rebellion, but that was changed before Empire Strikes Back was written.

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Because there are two sexes, and one was already used.

I have no problem with Rey being a girl.

I do have a problem with Jyn Erso being a similar character played by a similar actress.

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Because she has two sets of X chromosomes.

Why was Harry Potter a boy?

You are trying to find reason in randomness.

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That's great insight. I'll have to read that statement at the next writer's guild meeting.

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There are two genders, so it was a 50% chance that it'd be either a boy or a girl. Surely you don't have to be a feminist nowadays to see that this is a valid reason for a main character in a movie to be a woman

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she didn't NEED to be a girl. she just was

why did Luke Skywalker need to be a male? he didn't.

either you're trolling or incredibly stupid or are being dense on purpose because the only answer you want to hear is that she's a woman because feminism

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Rey was designed to push a feminist agenda, nothing more. The fact that she's a Mary Sue makes it worse.

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Still doesn't answer why the story necessitated her being a female.

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Odd question... 🤔

Rey's character is pretty much asexual anyway... Could be played by either sex without changing the meaning of these movies... 😉

There is no romance and no comraderie between her and others either... No real human connection apart from the standard orphan-seeks-daddy/parents thing we get in most big American movies... So none of the aspects of being human that relate to one's sex...

Also, since it's a StarWars movie you have "the Force" so no need for muscles or supperior male strength, etc... 😁

But aside from all of that, it's a gift and a wake up call to all the manchild fans who latch onto new StarWars movies seeking to reinforce a young boy fantasy... it changes the small boy fantasy into a small girl fantasy and shatters the edifice that has been created over decades of men's attachment to a childish thing... It's a chance to be free, become fully adult and thus embrace their masculinity fully... Something that has be stunted for decades due to the widespread attachment to StarWars...

It is the adult man attachment to StarWars, not as a fond childhood memory, but as a current and ongoing obsession which has castrated more than a generation of men globally... Time to be free of it...

Geeks, man up! 😎

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I don't think women will have the attachment to StarWars that men have had... StarWars coincided with the rise of the nerd generation (socially, culturally and economically) and of men who tried to hold on to their childhoods well into adulthood...

Women do not have the same situation... Star Wars does not mean much to them, although it seems like it means the world to a generation or two of some men...

Finn's obsession with Rey and Kylo's shirtlessness have nothing to do with her... Finn could have had a mancrush on (or bromance with) "Ray" instead without changing anything, and Kylo's interest in Rey seem non-sexual...

I think you need to look beyond comicbook and starwars type childrens movies to see what real sexuality is in movies and to see how being a woman can change the meaning of a role, sexual or otherwise... A better example is Emily Blunt's character in Sicario... to have that as a male character would make the film about the betryal of a man by other men, who use him as a patsy... having it as a woman, gives the film a woman-bullying undertone that some critics didn't like, but more importantly it shifted the meaning of the film to some extent...

But Rey... come on... She's a loner, magical force-using, non-sexual character... Unlike Luke who had the attempted-incest subplot of wanting his sister, before knowing they were related... there is nothing of that nature in Rey's movies so far... the only thing that is there is old fans expectations of seeing a son-of-luke skywalker movie, so they can relive their boyish fantasy yet again.. this is their baggage and nothing within the films that makes Rey a boy or girl...

The feminist bits of the last jedi are not related to Rey being a woman, rather they seen firmly in the other characters... So i can't see why Rey needs to be a girl or boy... she can be either as the character is pretty neutral so far, from a sex point of view... For all we know she could be a lesbian as well... Nothing to stop that...

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As i said before the films were even made and the protagonist was slated to be a (white) female, i had no problem with a main protagonist who happened female as long as they didn't make it about gender politics (they did) or make the character a bland, uncompelling Mary Sue (they did).

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