Luke was just like his mother at the end... - Star Wars: Episode VIII - The Last Jedi (2017) Discussion

I don't think he's dead.I'm pretty sure that he'll be back in the next installment.

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[–] TexasJack (12515) 6 years ago

The supremely powerful and infallible Rey pronounced him dead, so he is deader than disco. He will probably be back as a Force ghost.

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[–] footlegger (1462) 6 years ago

I wonder if Snoke will be back as a Force Ghostbuster :D

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[–] PresidentAckbar (1289) 6 years ago

lolz

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[–] lordbishop34 (1442) 6 years ago

Well given the power Yoda displayed..perhaps that would be fine...or there is always cloning..any reason a force ghost couldn't take the body of a cloned Luke Skywalker? That is not a new concept in Star Wars.

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[–] croft_alice (12180) 6 years ago

All heil Rey.If queen Rey say that Luke is dead,then who am i to say otherwise.I'm sorry,my queen😭

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[–] lordbishop34 (1442) 6 years ago

I think what he did there was more than just a hologram, he projected himself as a solid object across the galaxy. I am curious if he could have killed Kylo if he wanted to. So in this case it may be he taxed his body to far to accomplish it. It does take effort to use the force in certain ways. So I am going to go with its more believable in this case he may die doing what he did than the way Padme died. But since the character is so badly written and is not to me a believable end point for that character...that part was crap too.

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[–] TexasJack (12515) 6 years ago

You could be right, but he was blasted by the walkers and stabbed with a lightsaber by Kylo to no effect, so I'm going with hologram.

I agree Padme's death was even more absurd.

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[–] footlegger (1462) 6 years ago

Not a solid object. He even looks different, uses a fake lightsaber (that doesn't exist any more), and never strikes anything with it. It's a new "Force MagicTrick" invented by the lazy Rian Johnson.

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[–] lordbishop34 (1442) 6 years ago

He was solid in the base when he interacted with Leia..in fact the dice stayed solid after he "died" for a little while. So I am going to lean to he was able to make himself solid enough to interact with things when needed.

I am trying to explain it as best I can, not a lot to work with in that movie...

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[–] Frogarama (12942) 6 years ago

Did Kenobi die of fatal injuries too? They both faded away.

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[–] TexasJack (12515) 6 years ago

Yes but Kenobi was actually standing in front of Vader and was cut in half by him, so his death seems a bit more logical.

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[–] Frogarama (12942) 6 years ago

Kenobi wasn't killed by Vader! He even held up his lightsaber, refusing to defend himself. He knew what he was doing. He voluntarily gave himself up to the Force, and Vader's saber only hit his robe.

This has been basic Star Wars knowledge for over 40 years!

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[–] TexasJack (12515) 6 years ago

This answer from Quora best explains why I think you're wrong.

I think that Vader actually killed Obi-Wan, because he specifically stated "if you strike me down, I will become more powerful than you can possibly imagine.". He did not say "When you attempt to strike me down I will stop it from happening and become more powerful than you can possibly imagine." The effect of him being destroyed by Vader was what allowed him to Force Transmogrify.

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[–] Frogarama (12942) 6 years ago

That's just the opinion of some random person.

The scene plays slower than full speed so that we can see Kenobi is not getting hit by the saber. His robe is falling before Vader's saber even passes through the shoulder:

https://youtu.be/sq51w34Hg9I?t=2m13s

It's obvious that the scene intends to show that Kenobi was not in the robe when the saber hit the robe.

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[–] TexasJack (12515) 6 years ago

That's just the opinion of some random person.

As opposed to you or me? I think I'm pretty random as people go.

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[–] Frogarama (12942) 6 years ago

The Quora quote is also someone being overly literal with a poetic line of dialogue, which is just way too common these days. It's also clearly wrong.

As seen in the video, the scene was intentionally shot in a way to deliberately show that Kenobi was not in the robe when the robe was hit by the saber. It's already falling right before the blade would have even touched Kenobi's skin. It is slowed down so that no one misses it.

Kenobi simply wasn't struck down by Vader.

Here it is from official canon:

The Princess, The Scoundrel and The Farm Boy clarifies: “Instead of his body falling to pieces, an empty cloak fell to the ground. It was like the old man had just disappeared. One last magic trick.”

Similarly the comic version A New Hope says: “The blow should have cut the old man in half but instead it sliced right through his robe and the Jedi was gone. There was nothing left of him.”

https://www.express.co.uk/entertainment/films/781215/Star-Wars-news-Darth-Vader-didnt-kill-Obi-Wan-Kenobi-in-A-New-Hope

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[–] Ace_Spade (9458) 6 years ago

I actually got the impression that he did the Jedi equivalent of meditating himself to Nirvana. He astral projected across the galaxy, was physically exhausted, assumes his meditation posture, and just feels the Force. Finally, for the first time in a long time, he's connected again and he makes all the connections he wasn't making for all those years and lets go of the physical and material, transcends to a higher plane of existence. That's not giving up and dying.

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