Great spectacle TERRIBLE movie


It's like a Nat Geo doc in Pandora with a family tv series plot,very thin story quite boring lame dialogues,very forgettable,should have been 2h not 3h long. At least it's not Woke and it has AMAZING CGI and World building.
Cameron is past his prime this franchise is an ecoactivist ego trip
It will make money but I think it will struggle to reach 2B needed just to break even and it might flop the second weekend will be crucial

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Weird because some people say it's not woke and some claim it's too woke.

This is why I hate the whole woke thing. No one is able to really define it.

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Well - he one who commands the evil human army is a female - negating woke
at the same time, it seems like all of the evil humans are white, which suggests that it is woke
Furthermore - there's no sign of females being tougher/more intelligent than men in this film
It's a mixed bag, but all in all, the woke factor is quite insignificant -

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But I bet some would call it woke because there's a female in power and as most of the army seemed white.

No one can ever give a proper defention of woke



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if the story is so bad, people get bored and start picking out the wokeness: 1 gay, 1 black, 1 asian, 1 trans, 1 women hero etc etc

if the story is GREAT, no one bothers to look for woke, and it doesn't even matter.

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Because the whole woke thing is a joke.

Everyone who uses the word seems to have a different meaning. And a lot of the people who use the word can't actually fully explain why it's even classed as woke to them.

I see people seeing a non white character in a trailer and people claim it's woke without even seeing the film. Like what is wrong with having some multi culture in films?

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true, things have been diverse for quite a while.

but there's some that think it is not DIVERSE "ENOUGH". Every couple must be mixed race, every movie must have some gay, every blah blah insert whatever.

its that check boxing that people are calling out now.
in the past movies were entertaining... now, it's a mixed race couple that also has an asian son. who is that supposed to be relatable to? Blacks, or whites, or asians? or just mixed race couples with asian kids?? it's gotten overly weird, and cinema quality is suffering because of it.

NOT because there is more diversity, but because they work on that more than a quality story.
that's part of a definition of woke.

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But why does having a mixed race couple bother you?

Take doctor who for example. I'm not a fan of the Chibnall era but it was bad writing that was the issue. The show was always political but this new movement seems to ignore that

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mixed race couples dont bother me personally, but when 15% of marriaged people get shoe horned in to 90% of the productions, it just seems stupid, and less relateable to the majority of ticket buyers.

this is akin to whites trying to make great black cinema for blacks, or straights making gay films for gays, or gays making straight films for straights, etc etc etc just disingenuous, and doesn't really work. ok, SOMETIMES it works - there are ALWAYS exceptions, but mostly, it doesn't.

lets just let people make GREAT movies instead of check boxed movies. let blacks make black cinema, I dont care, gays make gay cinema, I don't care, even whites make films with white people, who cares... just make the plots interesting and well written. not PLACATING.

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That because Cameron couldn't decide how to appease woke imbeciles.

Its woke for only reason - all villains are white. Movie whole time inflames hatred and racial hate towards white people. While in script it implies that whole human race is bad. But Cameron was so afraid that woke imbeciles will come after him and call him racist for showing black people in bad light that he just erased them from existence ))) Non-white people dont exist in Avatar universe. Because only white are allowed to be bad so only whites were cast. I wonder how that cat list looked like: "Only white people come to casing, please" )))

And its not woke enough because there are no gay, trans, overweright people. And women are not Mary Sue and dont humiliate men everyone they speak to them. So woketards were offended. ))))

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Why would it be woke though if there was a gay character. People claim these days just having certain characters make a film woke.

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There are NO BLACKS on screen only as Avatars(Na'vi) quite rare in modern movies I was stunned although this is an accident a happy accident IMO😂

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soooo literally the first one all over again?

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Nope. The first one was a Pocahontas ripoff. This one is more like... The Patriot or some other movie where the hero tries to be peaceful but ends up leading a war effort.

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So it’s just like the first one?

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Exactly...On steroids the original had a stronger plot & acting better drama better overall

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