What party was Whitmore? I get the feeling that he was a Democrat, mainly because John McLaughlin calls him out on his policies and his dealing with Congress. McLaughlin was a Republican so it would make sense that he would be critical of a Democratic President.
shareIf you mean the guy in the first film, he was meant to reflect Bill Clinton so he'd be a Democrat.
shareThat's what I thought back then. I was 7. But watching the nightly news with my parents I I saw Clinton every night or stories about him and his presidency. Both Whitmore and Clinton had the youthful quality back in the 90's. So I can see why people draw parallels.
shareAlso, Democrat presidents are generally younger than Republican ones. For example, Jimmy Carter is still alive more than ten years after his election opponent Reagan died.
shareNice bit of ageism there... 🤦♂️
The future's sending you a message: Joe Biden is the oldest POTUS on record.
By the way, not only are you FACTUALLY wrong, your narrative also sucks. I find that it takes longer for working-clas people to get into politics and succeed, because they don't have daddy's money to facillitate their success in life.
Working-class people have to experience life, go to night school, and work several jobs, before they can afford to get their shit together. Rich kids like Kennedy have it all handed to them on a fucking plate.
Never thought Bill Clinton was "good looking", he was just average and never thought of him having a "youthful quality" he tried his best to be "hip" by playing the Sax. He disgraced the WH w/all the disgusting Monica stuff IN the Oval Office, but Bill always had an "eye for the ladies", his wife HRC knew this when she married him. Oh well what's next for Bill and Hillary ? Hmmm...
shareClinton's a fucking bulbous nosed sex offender who believed his own BULLSHIT mythologised hype as some rags-to-riches poor kid (his step-dad was a fucking car-dealer FFS; one of the most lucrative occupations in the US) and brilliant Rhodes Scholar. He was fortunate to marry well, and have a wife who hauled his ass to the White House.
"American Crime Story: Impeachment" said it best:
Bill Clinton: Aren't you glad you married the President and not that guy?
Hillary Clinton: If I'd married that guy, he'd be the President.
Might have been Clinton because Clinton was POTUS when the first move came out in 1996 but he fits the JFK profile more. Very young and a war hero - moderate democrat. Of course that democrat is extinct now.
shareYou mean he was a moderate Republican (that type has been extinct for even longer...)
shareIt's never revealed. There's kind of a clue, though (possibly unintended). Jasmine told the First Lady that she voted for 'the other guy'. Black people vote overwhelmingly Democrat, which would make Whitmore a Republican if Jasmine had voted along 'predictable' demographic lines. Also, being a stripper, it's less probably be less likely to be a social conservative.
The little available evidence points towards Whitmore being a Republican.
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Yea I assumed he was a Republican because of Jasmine's comment. She was a stripper from LA... I doubt she was a Republican.
The only other way to interpret this is that since they are a military family, they could be Republicans. I read that military families tend to vote republican. From that POV, maybe Whitmore was a Democrat.
But In hollywood, usually they're democrat.
Yea I assumed he was a Republican because of Jasmine's comment. She was a stripper from LA... I doubt she was a Republican.
California is the seventh most Democratic state in the nation, and was already pretty liberal by 1996, despite giving the US two relatively recent GOP Presidents (i.e. Nixon and Reagan). It's not impossible but HIGHLY UNLIKELY that a down-to-earth Black single mother and stripper would have voted for a GOP candidate.
shareEh, I dunno about that.
There some porn stars who are flat out Republican because they believe Democrats would take more of their pay check away. I'm pretty sure a stripper could also be a Republican for the same reasons.
On top of that, I don't see an openly gay film-maker being supportive of Republican ideology that would essentially limit his amount of freedom.
Also, does he have to be either a Democrat or Republican? Maybe the first independent for all we know. It's a movie. A fantasy movie at that.
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I agree that some people in the sex industry can be right-leaning, at least on fiscal matters, but bear in mind that this was a BLACK single mother stripper living in L.A. during a period in which the GOP was aligned with the 'moral majority'.
Also, Roland Emmerich's films are quite conservative in tone, and Independence Day has a very jingoistic rah-rah flag-waving narrative. It's possible that Emmerich, or the studio he was working for (i.e. Fox) was pandering to a certain type of American.
Bear in mind also that he lampoons a clearly Democratic mayor in Godzilla, whilst going easy on the more conservative-appearing governor (NYC mayors tend to lean further to the left than NY governors).
I think Whitmore was a Democrat in the novels so yes?
shareWhitmore was a Democrat as President Lanford was identified as being Republican in the ID2 promo media and she'd served as VP under her predecessor who had succeeded President Grey, Whitmore's former VP. Based off this, Whitmore is a Democrat.
shareMaybe there were four Republican Presidents in a row.
Anyway, on what planet would a Black single mother stripper-turned-health worker, played by Vivica Fox, vote Republican?
I think the biggest clue that hasn't been discussed, is the fact that party affiliation isn't flat-out stated directly. Usually, when the media tries to obscure party affiliation, it's to protect the Democrat. If a Republican is involved in a scandal, it's always mentioned every time, and in the first sentence...."today Republican GOP member XXX was found to....etc...." When it's a Democrat the media will only give the Name of the individual, and maybe by the 7th paragraph will party be mentioned, but not before blaming a bunch of Republicans for 'twisting the facts' and 'taking everything out of context'.
Therefore, I'm saying Whitmore is a Democrat do to denial of information.
OBVIOUSLY, a Republican. Vivica A. Fox's character, a Black single mom, stripper and eventually a medic, voted for the other guy, and perhaps I'm sterotyping, but she didn't seem the Republican type.
shareAnother thing, whilst the DNC is every bit as indebted to the industrial-military-complex as the GOP, Republican *voters* are far more likely to identify with the military than most liberals.
Some Democrats are very militaristic and hawkish, but I doubt a military man would have got through the DNC Primaries as successfully as one would have got through the GOP Primaries, especially in the years that followed the first Gulf War.
Three out of five of the last Presidential candidates to have served in the military were Republican (i.e. George H.W. Bush, Bob Dole and John McCain, the Democrats being John Kerry and Al Gore, who was ONLY in Vietnam for a few months).