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A 5+ minute firefight and not a single person reloads?


I found it amusing that with the constant fire we don't see at least one person have to reload magazines. The kinds of magazines they are using typically only hold about 30 rounds, shouldn't they have had to reload at least once or twice during the episode?

I realize everything can't be shown onscreen, but during the shootout conservation of ammo and maybe even reloading at strategic times should have been a major consideration for both crews.

Unless I missed it, the only person I saw reload and that was Morgan reloading a handgun (or maybe he was just checking the magazine).

Manowar2010

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A 5+ minute firefight and not a single person runs out of ammo. That is S-T-R-A-N-G-E!!!

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Lets not forget they were all 10 meters apart from each other and still could not hit shit, and those AK's could have cut through those car doors easy.

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Writers know how to write, but rarely have military experience. Watching this I imagine how much more effective Rick's people would be if they had an infantryman to teach them basic tactics. Wasting all those rounds is foolish when they could burned them out. Also writers have no appreciation for the amount of damage a fire team can achieve.

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and no of them can shoot either. besides with the amount of Bullets fired in those 5 minutes they would have killed most if not all of the Saviors.

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One of the gay guys reloaded I think. But who cares ... movies are not to depict realism, they are just to get you to suspend your disbelief. Some people nitpick ... and I understand that. It's like in Walking Dead the thing that always bothers me the most is that the camera is walking with someone, showing a clear area with no one and nothing around. Then in the next second a zombie lurches out of nowhere, right off-camera and takes a chomp out of someone's body. You just have to assume that a zombie did in fact get the drop on the person, and they just cannot make up unique situations every time it happens. But it always seemed to me that those things could not move very fast or silently, and they must stink like hell, so you could probably smell them a mile away.

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I don't think TWD employ a firearms/military advisor. Just look at the rampant use of full auto over short, controlled bursts. Where are all these full auto guns coming from anyway? Fair enough if they've looted military for ARs, MP5s e.t.c. But what about all those AKs, Sigs, all other random stuff.

Then look at the amount of guns that are missing rear sights, front sights e.t.c.

They have no concept of concealment vs cover. Aside from the engines in those cars, there was nothing on show that would have stopped a bullet. Even little 9mms. All that corrugated metal stuff would have been shredded. Car doors? Shredded through both sides. There was pretty much no cover whatsoever. Look at bullet impacts. 99% of the time you were just seeing little sparks and then no bullet hole. I guess they were using those spark paintballs for the effects. They have a massive firefight and can't be arsed to do proper bullet impacts. That's half of what makes a firefight on camera. Think that scene in 'Heat'.

And the suppressors on their handguns. Quite a few programs/films are guilty of this. They just looked like the prop guys screwed a little bit of skinny pipe on the barrel. They don't look like realistic suppressors at all. Absolutely no volume. They got cool points when they used an Osprey with the Mk23 a while back but that's about it.

The lack of reloading is an attention to detail thing. Look at the likes of John Woo, Michael Mann e.t.c. They know what's up. TWD is just throw away nonsense for the masses. They don't care about the little details that make something special.

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"Unless I missed it, the only person I saw reload and that was Morgan reloading a handgun (or maybe he was just checking the magazine)."

His pistol with silencer ran out of bullets and he switched to another (a Beretta, I think). Not actually reloading, but at least it was shown he'd spent his clip on the other gun.

I not going to fault the show for not showing more people reloading; the editing was so frenetic I can understand why they didn't feel the need to show it for more people.

What I am going to fault the show for is the stupid staging of the scene at the Sanctuary where both groups are blasting away with automatic rifles barely 30 feet apart from each other--there would have been massive casualties on BOTH sides very quickly.

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I never understand complaints like this. Pretty much every movie/tv show does this when it comes to guns. They never show them reloading. Would it be nice if they showed it? Sure. Does it matter? No.

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It's not really about reloading but the firefight was so unrealistic that it takes you out of the moment and you start to notice things ... like no one is reloading, or a guy spends half the firefight with his head in a car window and never gets shot, or they are 10-15 meters from each other but bullets are going all over the place, everyone on full auto like an 80's action movie, no molotovs or heavy weaponry, no tactics at all except most lead wins.

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Tbh I just don't care to notice that stuff. Gun battles on tv are all the same to me. A bunch of bad shooting by people with unlimited ammo sprinkled in with a ton of cuts and edits. It seemed pretty standard to me but maybe I'll go watch it again.

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95% of television is garbage. This show is a cut above despite noise made by trolls. But you're right, this gun battle was Prime Time quality, a big step down.

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