Didnt need to be R


Its ok, worth one watch. I like David Harbour and he is good here. A bit too long, contrived and woke. Overly graphic and excessive bloody violence. It has a little bit of heart though. 6/10. A tighter edit would have gone a long way.

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Yeah - it's a weird film - it feels like a film for kids, but with R-rated content. As an adult, there were indeed a few moments where I chuckled, but the first half of the film felt like a kid's film with some cursing, which was odd.
I imagine the idea is that kids will see this despite R-rating - as they usually do - just not in theaters. I would have preferred that this was either aimed at kids or adults - trying to please 2 demographics, when only one can legally watch it in the movie theater, was an odd move.

I did like the ending - the dude playing Santa was pretty legit and this film could have been really good, if it didn't try to target 2 demographics at once.

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Agreed on the "weird part". It didn't really know what it wanted to be. A kids movie? A horror movie? An action movie? A comedy? It just felt all over the place. Wish they would've played it closer to a straight action movie, like Die Hard, w/ fantastical elements.

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If the F*** word is used more than once, the MPA traditionally has given an R rating for many decades. The violence and killings alone would earn it an R. It's not for kids.

A Tuesday discount ticket audience of many middle aged people were laughing their heads off, when Santa began delivering the Pain to naughty adults. The Christmas songs added to the humor. At 112 minutes, the running time was fine by me.

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Regarding the "not needed R rating", I understood it the same way you did first. But now I think OP was saying that the movie didn't need to have this much profanity and gory violence.

Personally, I thought it was all good. I liked the excess. Would have been pretty bland without it.

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How was it woke? I didn't notice anything woke in it unless you count the interracial parents as woke.

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Yeah, that's what I thought too when I read the OP. I mean, the hero is white and the criminal leader is hispanic. So other than the parents I don't know what is woke about this movie. Maybe OP could enlighten us.

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Woke just means anything he doesn't like. It's long since lost any meaning it may have had. Now all 'woke' means is "I'm a moron, and I didn't like this thing".

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Needed to be more R. Also, I didn't consider it woke at all.

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