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I wish this show had remained with its original premise...

posted 3 years ago by Galactus03 (4289)
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....A family hunting the supernatural. When they got into the Angel's and God it got too heavy handed and that is what the show ultimately was about. Than they make god the actual villain. I mean where do you really go from there? Nowhere of course. Can never be a supernatural reunion because the ultimate villain was defeated and they would just be spinning their wheels. Plus well Sam and Dean are dead now. I just wish the ending would have been opened and they would have downplayed the God thing. Maybe Chuck and Amara were just cosmic beings with God Complexes and they didnt really create like they claimed. Still i did enjoy the show. I liked most of the characters and Jack was a good addition later on. And of course Mrs. Butters. Too bad they didnt come up with her sooner. Lol

Oh well glad its finally done. It wasnt awful. Just wish it would not have had so much finality to it during it's mostly entire run..

[–] Artisan (3464) 3 years ago

I loved the "Monster of the week" format. Later on some of the story arcs were just boring to me and went on too long.

The first five seasons were the best.

[–] [deleted] 3 years ago

Exactly what I have always said. The last episode of the 5th seasons could have been the series finale. All the angles they worked were covered. The circle was complete. It was a perfect conclusion.

It's been a super long time but I remember not liking the 6th season at all. After it was a little better but it wasn't very good.

Season 9 was alright. But I loved season 10. The trust and camaraderie was back between the brothers and it felt a lot like the first seasons that I enjoyed.

I didn't really watch it after season 12 (I don't even know if I finished it). When I think of Supernatural, in my mind it's always the first 5 seasons.

[–] billbrown7071 (3193) 3 years ago

I wish this show had remained with its original premise.......A family hunting the supernatural.

^^^

NO words can describe how much I agree with this

Seasons 1,2 and 3 are among my favorite seasons for a TV show EVER, I also very much enjoy seasons 4 and 5...

But When It turned to Angel's,God and Theology that ultimately took place the rest of the series, The show was never the same to me....

I discovered this show around 2013, My dad had been watching it for years and always told me to watch it....I bought season 1 on DVD and watched it, I was SO HOOKED Immediately, I then Bought the complete series on Blu Ray(seasons 1 through 8 at the time)....over the next 2 months I watched All 8 seasons, It was an amazing experience, again seasons 1 through 5 were just outstanding and I at no point had any Negative thoughts while watching them, I do remember Thinking during 6,7 and 8, "wow maybe I'm getting sick of this show"...at the time I had not realized yet because I was binge watching the show so fast that I simply didnt like where the show was headed and didnt realize there had been a Major shift in storylines but By the time I ended season 8, I fully realized I did NOT Like how the show had shifted to The Angel's, God, Demons and Hell narrative. I fully realized something drastically changed after season 5.

Looking back, I basically ONLY enjoyed seasons 6,7 and 8 for The Monsters of the week episodes.

I didnt even bother following Supernatural LIVE for seasons 9 and 10 after completing seasons 1 through 8 and That would have been unthinkable if you would have asked while I was watching seasons 1 though 5, when I was binging seasons 1 through 5, I remember looking up when season 9 premiered several times because I LOVED the show so much, I knew I would start watching it live

sometime in 2016 I watched seasons 9 and 10 on netflix....there wasnt much enjoyment there..I absolutely had no excitement toward the storylines, again the LONE enjoyment I got was from the monster of the week episodes....I at times felt myself Literally wanting to skip the episodes that dealt with the shows Mythology but I ultimately didnt....

I'm currently watching seasons 11 to 15 right now....

I enjoyed seasons 11 quite a bit, and By far enjoyed that seasons Mythology more than any season since season 5....

I'm half way through season 12 now and its been a struggle.

I absolutely wish Supernatural stayed like it was in seasons 1 through 5....But I also realize I'm not sure the show could have lasted this long...15 seasons is incredible and I dont think It would have gotten there had it stuck with the original premise and kept repeating, I mean I know I would have enjoyed it MUCH MORE but I dont believe it would have kept getting renewed...

anyways....I'm going to finish Supernatural in the coming months....I Will enjoy the Monster of the week episodes and probably struggle through everything else...

In the coming years, I Will rewatch seasons 1 though 5 probably every 3 years or so and LOVE THEM, but I highly doubt I'll every rewatch seasons 6 through 15 again...

[–] Galactus03 (4289) 3 years ago

But see i think it could have lasted 15 seasons without God. One thing they never touched on were other races outside of earth.

I remember one season of Angel the big bad was a mere human who did more damage to Angel's life than any of the powerful demons he had fought.

[–] Darren (1133) 3 years ago

Ditto. I finally just finished watching the last season on Netflix. I saved it till now so I could binge it. (BTW, am I the only one who thought episode 15:19 would have been a better finale than 15:20? The last episode was good, but it was too obviously pure fan service, with the poingnant goodbyes of Sam and Dean. The penultimate episode had the brothers defeat the big bad, and literally ride off into the sunset. That would have been better, IMHO.) I plan to start rewatching seasons 1-5 here soon, which I haven't seen since they originally ran. As I've said in another post on another thread, I personally consider seasons 1-5 to be the canon episodes, made according to the series creator and showrunner's original vision. All the seasons after that are apocryphal, as far as I am concerned. I have mostly enjoyed the series all this time, but I have thought for the past few seasons that it was about time to draw down the curtain. Let it end before it jumped the shark. Fortunately, it never did, but it also never equalled the quality of the first five seasons. I also figure I'll rewatch those every few years, but I'll just let seasons 6-15 fade into memory.

[–] redban (5203) 2 years ago

No, you’re not the only one. I also feel that the end of episode 19 in season 15 was the better ending

[–] asom (6509) 3 years ago

For me it's more interesting when they add an overarching story.

[–] Galactus03 (4289) 3 years ago

Well it is. But dealing with strongest being In the universe is a bit much. Takes away from the rest of the series.

[–] Darren (1133) 3 years ago

^THIS!

I think the season 5 ending was great. You can read it as Sam and Dean's sacrifice, with the assistance of Castiel and Bobby, rekindle God's faith and love in his creations. He had stepped away for so long, even the angels didn't know where he went; and so many of them (e.g. Uriel, Malachi, Michael) had become contemptuous of his favored creations (humans) that they too had disgusted him. Unless something changed his mind, God was willing to let Lucifer and Michael begin the apocalypse and destroy it all. But by their heroism, perserverance, loyalty, and sacrifice, the Winchesters and their allies did change his mind, and persuade him to allow His creation a second chance. In this conception of things, Sam and Dean are pivotal, but their role is still limited, and human.

By the end of season 15, they writers had just ratcheted up the danger with each season to where, by the end, there was nowhere left to go but pit the brothers against God Himself, and they end up outwitting the omniscient creator of the entire multiverse. It's just too much.

[–] mcqueen (1150) 3 years ago

never seen it

[–] cyguration (3844) 3 years ago

Totally agreed.

The grounded approach for the first few seasons worked really well, and them having a struggle hunting just one demon throughout the original arc made it so much more compelling compared to the later seasons.

After Eric Kripke left as showrunner/writer, the show just went way downhill.

[–] Darren (1133) 3 years ago

I agree. The show managed to remain entertaining most of the time, though it was never anywhere near as good as it was during the first five seasons. And I'm sure the actors, the writers, the crew, etc. were glad to have steady employment for so much longer than was usual in the industry, particularly since the series leads appear to have become good friends and liked working with each other.

But strictly from an artistic perspective, I think the show worked better for its first five years, when angel and demon-level threats were rare and the Winchesters really struggled to cope with them, and spent the majority of their time going up against "mere" monsters like vampires, werewolves, ghosts, etc. By the later seasons, some of the story lines felt rather forced, dead relatives and friends seemed to come back every other month, and some of the characters were frankly awful (e.g. Charlie Bradbury, one of the most egregiously bad examples of a Mary Sue that I've ever seen in any entertainment format, ever).

Now that I've watched the whole series beginning to end, I think I'll restart it from the beginning, but just to the end of season 5, where I think the show has a natural end point.

[–] brodee (467) 3 years ago

Most people would agree with you, Supernatural started with a good plan for a few seasons and then they clearly ran out of script so they just made up one season at a time and to hell with continuity or logic. The Winchester brothers became the most serious ass kickers on the planet... so serious that you begin to wonder why they even had a problem in the prior seasons.

Though, wasn't it the running joke that every new season of supernatural was the last season? Always making a bigger splash in the new season than in the last in a hope to get picked up for renewal. Seeing it while it was happening is a better experience than going back and binge watching what came out of it.

[–] redban (5203) 2 years ago

If they knew the series was going to go 15 years, they would have stretched out the original premise (ie monster of the week). But originally, they were going to do 5 seasons and done. So they brought in the angels and stuff to get Lucifer as the final boss. Once they brought in Lucifer, they couldn’t just go back to the monster of the week format. After fighting Lucifer, you can’t get the audience to see the random monster of the week as a serious threat. Hence, they had to focus on stuff like Amara, Crowley, Rowena, Heaven, Hell, and God etc.