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Phase 1 MCU moments that wouldn't fly today


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Tony Stark's womanizing

Tony Stark burst onto the screen like one of his Jericho missiles: loud, bright, and landscape-altering. We'd had superheroes before, of course, and they had garnered fans and sequels and accolades. But Robert Downey Jr.'s Tony Stark was different. He had style, swagger, and the expertise and talent to back up his boasts. He could be a jerk, but he also advanced medical technology by decades. He was enormously full of himself, but also built himself a world-changing suit of power armor in a cave. It took him way too long to learn basic ethics, but darn it, you were cheering for him by the end. Tony Stark was not a good guy, but he was getting there, and the honesty of his journey was the key to the film's success.

But his womanizing and generally lecherous attitude towards everything feminine wouldn't work in today's MCU. His private jet includes flight attendants that double as exotic dancers. He immediately responds to a female reporter with objectifying remarks and a dismissal of her credentials. He is incapable of addressing a soldier as an equal once he learns she's a woman. Sure, there's being a lovable jerk — but then there's being outright gross. Nowadays, Tony Stark might be cocky, but he's not creepy, and he treats his female colleagues as the heroes they are.

Mainstream cool

Captain America: The First Avenger stands out within Phase 1 for a few reasons, from the historical setting to the tragic end. But perhaps the most notable thing about it is how much of a misfit Steve Rogers is. This is now a defining feature of the MCU: Captain Marvel faces opposition in the Air Force and the Kree Empire alike, Ant-Man is an ex-con, and the Guardians of the Galaxy are… well, themselves.

But back in Phase 1 — especially Iron Man and Thor — mainstream success was king. Sure, Tony Stark and Thor had to be brought low before their ultimate triumph. Both were boorish, arrogant princes (literal or otherwise) who had to face down their own hubris before more conquering their foes. But even when you were wincing at their braggadocio, you were still admiring their style. Thor pulled off his red cape and winking strut from scene one, and his more ludicrous facets — like the fact that his response to enjoying a drink is smashing the glass to the floor and crying, "ANOTHER!" — are, well, still kind of endearing. As for Tony, he's a piece of work, but you can't not admire him as he melts scrap into an arc reactor and returns to his Malibu mansion through sheer tenacity and talent. 

Their success as heroes — not to mention movie stars — depended on their mainstream cool. It was only later that Marvel decided to find heroism in more unlikely places.

Pepper Potts "taking out the trash"

Pepper Potts has come a long, long way. One of the weirdest things about revisiting Phase 1, in fact, is reacquainting one's self with her former position as Tony's assistant and long-suffering quasi-friend. She's good at what she does and the attraction between the two is obvious from day one — from her introduction, you can see the woman that will become a heroine in her own right buried within the cynical, skirt-suited shell. But it wasn't all tartness and day-planning back in Phase 1 for the competent Ms. Potts.

Recall Tony's sleepover with the aforementioned disrespected reporter, Christine Everhart. She wakes, finds the bed empty, and encounters Pepper, who informs her that her clothes have been cleaned and pressed, and that a car is waiting to take her wherever she wants to go. A minor verbal tussle ensues, and Pepper, smiling coolly, informs Ms. Everhart that one of her responsibilities is, when necessary, "taking out the trash" — the trash, obviously, being Ms. Everhart herself. It's a line that crosses over from cutting to outright nasty and, frankly, sexist. Happily, such rhetoric would be unlikely to come from Pepper today.

Rougher CG

The MCU is at a high point of computer graphics. Thanos isn't just visually convincing, he's fascinating. When he's on screen, your eyes are on him. The stakes were high for his star turn in Infinity War, as anything less could have been disastrously goofy. Imagine the sheer tonnage of Grimace and Grape Ape jokes the world could have seen. Imagine how unintentionally hilarious his scene on Vormyr might have been. Imagine, way back in the first Avengers movie, if his credits scene stinger had invoked a shocked chuckle instead of a gasp. Thanos is the crown jewel in the MCU's CG crown, and we're all lucky this ended up being the case.



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Yeah, Pepper Potts was slut shaming.

But it's not a good look for Vanity Fair that their reporter (albeit a fictional one) sleeps with her interview subject.
Or when Tony tells the real Col. Rhodes that he's 3 hours late for his flight because he "got caught doing a piece for Vanity Fair...."

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I do think it would still work today with maybe some people complaining

The thing is he is a flawed character but that's what makes characters great. He's a kind of anti hero at times but ultimately gets it right and does become a better person

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Pepper's "taking out the trash" is one of my favourite lines in the MCU!

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One that comes to mind is CNN having a reporter criticizing Stark for stopping the production of weapons. They'd be praising Stark for doing that now.

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Tl;dt, but in the part I read the author seems to have missed a couple of important points:

1: Tony was mean to be an arrogant jerk, who gets humbled and becomes a better person.
2: Nothing wrong with womanizing, with your fellow consenting adults.

I don't know why some straight men have so much trouble grasping the second point, I mean it's simple enough. Adult. Consenting. That's it.

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Maybe because some of us think sex should be between a man and woman who love each other and not between people who barely know each other.

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IMHO that would be up to the two consenting adults involved. You are of course welcome to hold out for love, as long as your love is old enough, but you don't get to tell other adults what they can or cannot do with consenting strangers.

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Well they can all tell God and Jesus how they feel when they all eventually die hopefully of old age.

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I can't imagine why the Universe would be constructed around someone or something who makes the sex life of individuals their top priority!

So I'll stick with "First, Do No Harm", that's a reasonable guide to life. And "Judge not, that you be not judged" is also one to remember.

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To be fair, I wasn't judging. I was saying what I believe is right. The bible talks about what sexual immorality is. The Apostle Paul was pretty exact on that. In today's world and even at the time of Paul, a lot of people treated sex like it was something as casual as eating dinner. And that is not right at all. Public schools for years have encouraged it for years. And it's the reason for a lot of teen pregnancies and unwanted pregnancy in general. Reproduction is what God intended sex for and all other sex exists because of Adam and Eve sinning in the garden.

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If there is a God, then He, She, It, or They, has bigger things to worry about than the sex lives of consenting adults who have access to birth control!

And in the era of reliable birth control and the Holocene Mass Extinction, it makes sense to find other words of God to preach about. Like maybe being a Good Steward of this planet we have, that's a big more important in the big picture.

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