I always feel like movies like this are.............

I hate this kind of comment, generally ... so condescending

But in this case I have to agree ... WITHOUT denigrating non-adult movies like, say, Tom Cruise's "Jack Reacher" or frankly most of Cruise's action movie oeuvre (which I also like, pretty much without exception other than "The Mummy")

"Ronin" just felt "grown up," even "world-weary," I suppose because of the characters themselves.

For me, it was brought home when I saw Hugo Drax (I'd seen "Moonraker" in the theaters) as an old man, making dioramas at home alone.

That's not condescending at all. It's just sad, because it's true.

No kidding? I thought they were in community college.

I think it's more that movies like this are made for adults, which can mean the stars are grown-up, or not. They used to make comedies for grown-ups. They made Broadcast News once. Now they make Sausage Party. Action movies used to be Ronin and Heat. Now it's Avengers as far as the eye can see...

It’s true. These characters are grown-ups with dad bods, and Ronin was at the tail-end of that tradition, now it’s all adolescents.

Daniel Craig as Bond radiates maturity, but that’s about it.

Culture as a whole has become infantilised and we’re encouraged to worship youth and diversity. Intelligent, ageing white males like the cast of Ronin are essentially blacklisted.