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Does the idea of Dracula being a romantic hero bother anyone else?


Right off the bat in the original book the scene where Dracula makes Mina drink his blood is representative of, if not actually, sexual assault (which was probably intended by Stoker given the sexual imagery going on with vampires).

"His right hand gripped her by the back of the neck, forcing her face down on his bosom. Her white nightdress was smeared with blood, and a thin stream trickled down the man’s bare breast which was shown by his torn-open dress. The attitude of the two had a terrible resemblance to a child forcing a kitten’s nose into a saucer of milk to compel it to drink.”


He's pinning her against his chest as she's struggling against him in an attempt not to drink it. Afterwards much is made of how she feels 'unclean' and 'soiled' as to what has happened to her.

So the whole idea of making Dracula in love with Mina and she in return has always bothered me. We actually have the aforementioned scene in this film except it's depicted as erotic and consensual as opposed to him violating her.

Obviously this is intended to be a different interpretation of an old story but at the end of the day it's basically turning a rape scene into a love one.

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Yeah, I've never liked that part of the story, villains are SO much more effective when they're sexy and unrepentantly bad, than when they're sappily romantic... but still bad! It's been done many times and doesn't make a villain more complex or interesting, it makes the romantic partner look like a fool who doesn't care if their crush is drenched in the blood of innocents.

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No. But I hate this movie. It’s a cartoonish parody without the humor.

The 1979 film did a better job with the “romance” — though it’s more sexual abuse since Lucy is being controlled mentally — and making Dracula a terrifying foe. He looks like an idiot in this one.

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Yes. It bothers me big time. It’s the worst change they made for this movie. If they wanted to make an origin love story for Dracula they should’ve called it something else, they definitely should not have attached Bram Stoker’s name to it.

It also bothers me that this is a celebrated version of Dracula. It does NOT deserve the popularity.

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So the whole idea of making Dracula in love with Mina and she in return has always bothered me. We actually have the aforementioned scene in this film except it's depicted as erotic and consensual as opposed to him violating her.


It bothered me as well. I've said before that the script changed the basic theme of Stoker's story from that of an epic battle between good and evil to one of a sappy love story between Mina and the Count.

This was not only irritating, but totally unnecessary.

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Yes, it's the worst aspect of this movie. Everything else about this movie I love. I can even get past Keanu. But even barring the problematic-ness of it all, the lost love reincarnated storyline was just plain stupid and so unnecessary

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The ending is so dumb. I definitely agree. I love everything else about this movie but the eleventh-hour conversion scene at the end turns me off--we're supposed to completely disregard all his victims since he's been "cured by wuv?" Can you imagine if there was a movie about Ted Bundy with an eleventh-hour conversion ending? How would most audiences react to that? So why do we react differently if it's a mythological creature?

The acting, costumes, sets, photography, editing, effects, music, screenwriting is overall outstanding. As for the ending...well...I can always flip it after Jonathan cuts Dracula's throat coming out of the box...

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Darth Vader slaughters countless people but everyone loves him at the end. Audiences hoover up a conversion narrative.

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If you watch the deleted scenes, they did the ending scene with Mina simply killing Dracula, then going back to Jonathan and friends. Then they lift the body of the Texas oil baron and carry it over the cross while they choir sings. I think this would have been a much better way to end the film because it emphasizes Mina's gratitude towards her husband, Van Helsing and friends and the reoccurring message that the spiritual forces of good will always triumph over evil.

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Perhaps. My point is that the ‘eleventh-hour conversion’ of Dracula is as effective as Vader’s. Audiences love that shit.

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But it WAS sexual assault, even in Coppola's version, because he has supernatural powers to affect her mind. It wasn't in her nature to behave like this, and the early scenes showing the juxtaposition between her and Lucy are there to make that clear. Do you also think Renfeld was naturally mental, and therefore just drawn to be his servant? No. Of course not.

The love story is between Johnathan Harker and Mina, and there is no other. Dracula is a predator.

She's also not the reincarnation of Elisabetha, even with the memories... those are inserted telepathically. Once the spell is broken, and his true nature revealed, Mina does not succumb to the evil and "unclean" nature and Winona's outstanding performance demonstrates that clearly. But it's too late.

At the end, it's different because she became an undead vampire like him. A bride. As she executes him at his request, the spell is broken it seems. Then, the film ends. There's nothing to say that she doesn't exit the castle and reunite with Harker and others, but it's just more edgy to conclude abruptly. Perhaps that accounts for your confusion?

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AnagramYYZ, I like your analysis. Great job.

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Like others said it was a jerk move on Coopala's part to put that stupid love story between Mina and Dracula into the movie. Especially in a movie called Braham Stoker's Dracula.

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Honestly, it does bother me in how commonplace it's become, to a point where even Stoker's own great-grandnephew felt the need to include it in his (admittedly, pretty terrible) sequel.

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