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Adults harassing kid

posted 4 years ago by Trembley (125)
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LMAO 2 adults were bullying a child and I loved it

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[–] stickman38 (3017) 4 years ago

you are one sick puppy but surprisingly enough, Ralph Macchio was actually older than Tom Griffith (Terry) was when they filmed this movie. I swear, Macchio still looks really young in this movie.

But this has always been my biggest problem with the KK films, Daniel always gets beat up several times but somehow manages to win in the end. LOL! Even though its sick to take pleasure watching these guys mess with Daniel, the "Do the crane Danny boy" line does make me laugh.

Here's the clip -

Terry says it right after Barnes shoves Daniel against the wall....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Na0HHZOboN8&feature=emb_logo

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[–] cruisin109 (1982) 4 years ago

Ralph Macchio was actually older than Tom Griffith (Terry) was when they filmed this movie.

So technically, Whinielle was the bully since he was picking on younger people.

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[–] wrlord (1082) 3 years ago

"Ralph Macchio was actually older than Tom Griffith (Terry) was when they filmed this movie"

But Griffith later got older than Macchio?

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[–] NRC123 (2080) 4 years ago

Daniel instigated the whole thing. Don’t start something you can’t finish.

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[–] bobbydallas (8097) 3 years ago

don't write cheques yo ass can't cash

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[–] Galactus03 (4289) 3 years ago

One a billionaire at that.lol...

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[–] NRC123 (2080) 3 years ago

It was justified.

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[–] wearsalan (5554) 3 years ago

Yeah, damn that kid for winning and forcing Kreese to throttle his star pupil causing the collapse of his club.......oh, hang on, no it wasn't justified.

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[–] NRC123 (2080) 3 years ago

Daniel naturally attracted enemies wherever he went.

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[–] wearsalan (5554) 3 years ago

Yeah, damn that kid for winning and forcing Kreese to throttle his star pupil causing the collapse of his club.......oh, hang on, no it wasn't justified.

^^^^
I know I already posted this but it was so valid it was worth re-posting.

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[–] NRC123 (2080) 3 years ago

Miyagi interfered in an argument between teenagers and physically assaulted five of them. He also attacked Mike Barnes in the street and launched him through a door. I don’t recall Silver or Kreese ever touching Daniel.

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[–] wearsalan (5554) 3 years ago

Miyagi didn't interfere in an argument, he stopped further beating of someone who already couldn't stand because of the beating he had received at that point.
As for Barnes, we don't know anything other than Barnes was thrown through the door by Miyagi after he chased Daniel to inflict further pain on him. For all we know Miyagi stepped in front of Daniel to protect him and Barnes decided to attack Miyagi.
Kreese never personally attacked Daniel but he OK'd Silvers plan to inflict pain on him, even adding 'Make his knuckles bleed'.
You are not very good at this are you?
You need to start taking your medication again. Oh, and get out in the sunlight. You are probably quite pale after spending so long in that cellar.

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[–] NRC123 (2080) 3 years ago

Look who’s here, the big war hero.

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[–] wearsalan (5554) 3 years ago

You're not very good at this are you?

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[–] NRC123 (2080) 3 years ago

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[–] wearsalan (5554) 3 years ago

Glad you agree

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[–] NRC123 (2080) 3 years ago

Daniel vandalized and flooded the school bathroom before causing a multiple car collision and fleeing the scene. He resisted the Kai’s citizen’s arrest when they tried to subdue him. Miyagi, without inquiring, attacked the group and helped a suspect escape.

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[–] wearsalan (5554) 3 years ago

You're not very good at this are you>

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[–] NRC123 (2080) 3 years ago

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[–] NRC123 (2080) 3 years ago

As for Barnes, we don't know anything other than Barnes was thrown through the door by Miyagi after he chased Daniel to inflict further pain on him.

Daniel fled the premises after refusing to pay for three Quicksilver lessons. (“Nothing’s for free.”) Barnes was just trying to collect a debt.

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[–] wearsalan (5554) 3 years ago

You're not very good at this are you?

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[–] NRC123 (2080) 3 years ago

The fact remains that there are multiple incidents of Miyagi physically abusing minors throughout the trilogy. Bizarre behaviour for the supposed hero of a children’s film.

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[–] wearsalan (5554) 3 years ago

Multiple? You mean twice.
When the Kai are assaulting Daniel, Miyagi pushes him aside. The Kai then attack Miyagi. His response is what is commonly known as self defence. As with the Barnes incident, all we know is Barnes chased after Daniel and then gets thrown back through the door. Based on Miyagis philosophy of ' Karate for defence only', it's fair to assume that Barnes attacked (or tried to) Miyagi. As I said....
You
Are
Not
Very
Good
At
This
Are
You
?

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[–] NRC123 (2080) 3 years ago

He also trespassed on Cobra Kai property, attacking its founding members, damaging a light switch and shattering a mirror. He had no reason to enter the premises after assaulting Barnes, but his blood lust had been wet and he wanted more. Kreese and Silver tried to pacify their intruder through compliments and friendly conversation (“Look who’s here, the big war hero.” “We’re old friends.”) but Miyagi attacked them nonetheless.

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[–] wearsalan (5554) 3 years ago

Was he trespassing though?
Perhaps he went to see Terry Silver and Barnes came running out to attack him. When he threw Barnes in the premises Miyagi entered to see if Terry was alright and that Barnes hadn't also attacked him. Who should he see but a 'dead' man and Terry and realized it was all a scam. Barnes then attacks him resulting in the lights being switched off not broken. Kreese and Silver square up to Miyagi before Kreese then ushers Terry to the side. Kreese then attacked and got his ass handed to him AGAIN. Terry then says 'C'mon old man let's see how good you really are', before attacking Miyagi. Miyagi merely defends himself.
As I said, YOU ARE NOT VERY GOOD AT THIS ARE YOU?

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[–] NRC123 (2080) 3 years ago

Perhaps he went to see Terry Silver and Barnes came running out to attack him. When he threw Barnes in the premises Miyagi entered to see if Terry was alright and that Barnes hadn't also attacked him.

This seems far-fetched. You’re fabricating excuses to protect an abuser. What was Miyagi even doing outside the dojo that late at night?

Terry then says 'C'mon old man let's see how good you really are', before attacking Miyagi. Miyagi merely defends himself.

Miyagi was in the middle of a rampage and Silver, as the owner of the property, had no choice but to make a stand.

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[–] wearsalan (5554) 3 years ago

Your whole post seemed incredibly far fetched and naive tbh.
Terry Silver wanted to engage Miyagi. If you don't see that then can you guess what? You are being incredibly naive.

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[–] cruisin109 (1982) 3 years ago

Miyagi had no right to enter the CK dojo in the first place.

It's called trespassing and Miyagi could have gone to jail for that... not to mention all the damage he caused. I hope Silver sued the Miyagi and & the judge ruled Miyagi become an indentured servant to Silver for the rest of his life.

Also the audacity of Whinielle to not pay for Terry's private lessons! What the hell he thought they were free? LOL. What universe did that kid live in?

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[–] wearsalan (5554) 3 years ago

WOW!
So desperate that you switched to your alter-ego. Still, I guess it must be hard for you now that all the Kai no longer visit these boards to back you up. I mean, you never were a major member back in the day were you, FrogClarke?
You were like the Jimmy of the group. While the other members like Romefan123 and Sliat1981 did all the work you stood in the background mumbling 'yeah' now and then. You made an attempt to be one of the players by offering to step in for Romefan123 once but that didn't play out well on the boards did it? Let's be honest here, none of them believed you. In that moment you went from being Jimmy. Silent member of the Kai, to being Freddy Fernandez. Bullshitter!
Now you have to make up members to try and have a gang. NEWSFLASH: YOU'VE BEEN RUMBLED!
Time for you to admit that you need help.

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[–] NRC123 (2080) 3 years ago

You live in a fantasy world. Your recollection of KKIII board history is even more delusional than your interpretation of the films. Have you considered that you might have brain damage from when the gang of 10 year olds beat you up in the alley.

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[–] wearsalan (5554) 3 years ago

RUMBLED
YOU WERE THE JIMMY

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[–] NRC123 (2080) 3 years ago

And you were the Kramer, beating up a class of 10-year-olds and then bragging about your accomplishments to strangers on message boards.

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[–] wearsalan (5554) 3 years ago

Except I wasn't...you just want that to be true.
You on the other hand were a minor/background member who sucked up to romefan123 to try and gain some kudos. Unfortunately you just came across as a Walter Mitty type with your fantasizing. A characteristic that is also a major trait of your alter-ego cruisin109

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[–] Sparky123 (1658) 3 years ago

What happened to all the old so called kai members? Did they just not come to movie chat when imdb closed ?

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[–] wearsalan (5554) 3 years ago

Some visited, Maixui and Shield24 but that's it. NRC123 used to be known as FrogClarke but he was a background member of the old Kai, so not a major player. Cruisin109 is actually a sock puppet of NRC123.

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[–] Sparky123 (1658) 3 years ago

Wonder why the old users
didn't come here

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[–] wearsalan (5554) 3 years ago

Well, as I said, two of the major players visited, but you only have to look at the old boards and realise that most of them drifted away before the end anyways.

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[–] Sparky123 (1658) 3 years ago

Ah got ya 👍

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[–] NRC123 (2080) 3 years ago

Why was Miyagi outside the Cobra Kai facility that late at night?

Why was he loitering at the edge of the South Seas Apartment complex after working hours?

He was always on the prowl for mischief.

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[–] wearsalan (5554) 3 years ago

Why was Miyagi outside the Cobra Kai facility that late at night?
Followed Daniel.

Why was he loitering at the edge of the South Seas Apartment complex after working hours?
Overtime or called out to work maybe.

He was always on the prowl for mischief.
You mean like Terry Silver. breaking and entering then hiding up a chimney.

You are always on the prowl for mischief aren't you?

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[–] PaladinNJ (20324) 3 years ago

You thought this out. Watch out. You may confuse him.

I think there's another possibility. I think Myagi had an apartment in the complex in addition to his house. Remember when the Cobras smashed Daniel's bike? Myagi was there that night as well.

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[–] wearsalan (5554) 3 years ago

There is that possibility as well

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[–] NRC123 (2080) 3 years ago

Daniel and Miyagi were mischief makers who actively sought trouble wherever they went. Review the Crimes of Daniel Larusso on Youtube for further evidence of their misdeeds. Over 1 million people agree their actions were criminal in nature.
Wandering the streets in a drunken haze, Miyagi interfered in a fair fight between 18-year-olds and nearly fatally injured Mike Barnes.

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[–] wearsalan (5554) 3 years ago

1 million is hardly worth a mention is it. It's less than 1% of the people who have seen it in the US alone. If you look at the global figure who must have seen these movies then 1 million is a rather insignificant amount compared to the majority who see Kreese, Silver et al as the bad guys.
So if you want to go with what you think is game winning figure, let's dance eh? I think you'll find yourself on the losing side....AGAIN!

Wandering the streets in a drunken haze, Miyagi interfered in a fair fight between 18-year-olds and nearly fatally injured Mike Barnes.
^^^^
You really are thick aren't you? How was it a fair fight ? Kreese and Silver were there in Barnes corner. Daniel was alone.
You are not very good without your old gang behind you are you?

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[–] NRC123 (2080) 3 years ago

Kreese and Barnes were out of sight within the dojo. After Miyagi launched Barnes through the door, he had no reason to pursue the matter further.

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[–] wearsalan (5554) 3 years ago

Well maybe he was concerned for Terry Silver seeing as that's where Barnes came from. But then I already said this in an earlier post.
Do try to keep up.
p.s you might want to alter your post. I believe you mean Kreese and Silver not Kreese and Barnes were out of sight.

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[–] Chris822cats (374) 3 years ago

Daniel is over 18 (due to the fact he was supposed to be in college) and it is assumed Mike Barnes is still in high school, since there is no evidence to the contrary. Therefore when Daniel "won" at the end of the movie, he is in fact a grown man celebrating a combat victory against a child.

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[–] wearsalan (5554) 3 years ago

Well it's all a bit vague here.
In Karate Kid Daniel has his 16th Birthday evidenced by him getting his driving licence, yet somehow he's supposed to be a senior so it should be 17th. If we say 16th then by the 85 tournament he would be 17. If he was 18 then why are the organizers inviting him to participate in an under 18 competition?

Where is it stated that Mike Barnes is in high school? If Mike Barnes is under 18, then why is he travelling alone to California to negotiate a business deal with Terry Silver when people under the age of 18 lack the capacity to make a contract?

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[–] Chris822cats (374) 3 years ago

In California you can't get your driver's license until you are 18 if you never participated in drivers ed. or drivers training, or at least that is how it was back then. Daniel never mentioned taking such classes, so he probably had to wait until he turned 18. If this is true, he should be stripped of his first title as well.

It is possible due to Daniel's youthful appearance and immaturity that he was assumed to be under 18. The officials at the tournament didn't seem to have the resources to verify such information and went by the honor system. They never verified his black belt either and if they had, it would have not been good for Daniel.

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[–] wearsalan (5554) 3 years ago

It is stated that it is his 16th birthday. Did you miss that or doesn't it suit your argument?
There is no need to verify it. If Miyagi says he is a blackbelt n Miyagi do then he is a blackbelt in Miyagi do.

Notice you dodged the questions on Barnes

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[–] Chris822cats (374) 3 years ago

My apologies, I wasn't discussing Barnes, but I'll answer them here.

"Where is it stated that Mike Barnes is in high school?"
The film never states this because it is implied that if he is competing in an under 18 All-Valley tournament that he must be in high school.

"If Mike Barnes is under 18, then why is he travelling alone to California to negotiate a business deal with Terry Silver when people under the age of 18 lack the capacity to make a contract?"

It can be assumed that Barnes had parental consent otherwise it would not be legal.

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[–] wearsalan (5554) 3 years ago

The film never states this because it is implied that if he is competing in an under 18 All-Valley tournament that he must be in high school.
^^^^
Oh, then why can't you accept that since being invited by the organizers to an under 18 competition and having his 16th birthday the previous year that Daniel too is under 18 ?

It can be assumed that Barnes had parental consent otherwise it would not be legal.
^^^^
You assume? You also assume Daniel is over 18 despite there being evidence to the contrary. As for Barnes, If he were in high school then what is he doing in California terrorizing Daniel when he should be in school wherever he actually comes from?
It's a typical tactic on this board to ignore what you think negates your argument.

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