After she runs away because her sisters won't do everything she says and then she's not even sorry about it Danny should have had a backbone and dumped her in a daycare center while the rest of the family got to enjoy the park. That spoiled brat got whatever she wanted.
share1) Regina George from Mean Girls should've got suspended for being a bully. It didn't happen.
2) Angelinca from Rugrats should've been punished and spanked a lot more for being mean to the babies. It hardly happened.
3) Gia should've been punished for smoking on campus and starting that rumor about Stephanie. It didn't happen.
4) Veruca Salt should've never won that golden ticket since she was very badly behaved and didn't earn that ticket herself. It still happened.
5) Mertle from Lilo and Stitich should've been punished, belted, and kicked outta that hoola dance class for bullying Lilo. It didn't happen, but at least Lilo had enough balls to whoop her ass :)
First of all we are talking about Full House and this topic is about Michelle and Disney World. Secondly the episode wants the audience to think that she got a fair punishment, she didn't she got 30 seconds of wishy washy Danny telling her "now make sure you don't do that again" and then she even got her stupid tea party. It sets a bad example for children who are the target audience.
shareWell same goes for all the shows I listed. All parents of these people on my list are bad examples for children and target audiences.
shareIt's off topic, are you conceding that I'm right about this particular topic?
Also we the audience were never supposed to agree with Veruca Salt or Angelica (although they were a lot funnier than Michelle), we the audience are supposed to agree with Michelle, do you understand the difference?
You know... It is true that Angelica and Mertle were little bitches towards their victims. Much worse than Michelle ever was. But I don't believe in physical violence by adults on children.
shareAngelica was funny and we weren't supposed to take her seriously nor were we supposed to sympathize with her, the same cannot be said for Michelle so yes Michelle is worse.
shareWrong. Before they decided to make Angelica more sympathetic, she did several awful things to the babies. Michelle never made anybody for example eat green stuff, that had been lying under the sofa.
shareWe were never supposed to sympathize with Angelica she was always the antagonist, Michelle we are supposed to sympathize with and we were supposed to accept her half assed apology and her non existent punishment,
shareNO KIDS.RIGHT?
shareThat doesn't make Michelle worse than Angelica though, which is what you claimed.
Then again, Angelica mellowed as the show went by and the creators felt she had become too nasty.
Yes it does because the audience is supposed to agree with Michelle not Angelica which is why it’s a false comparison. Kids watch Rugrats and they know they aren’t supposed to be like Angelica , kids watch Full House and are supposed to think Michelle is cute.
shareWell... Since my opinion is that Michelle wasn't that bad, I guess that this discussion will never end with us coming to an agreement.
shareShe was a completely spoiled brat and she should have rotted in a daycare center while the rest of the family had fun, then it should have been rubbed in her face. You understand she could have gotten kidnapped right?
shareIf she annoys you that much, don't watch "Full House" again. Easy, peasy. And I could make a long list of kids in TV shows, who are much worse than Michelle ever was.
shareThe point of this forum is to discuss full house so I am, if you don’t like it get over it.
shareIf this person's opinion upsets you so much, put them on ignore and don't read what they say. Easy peasy, right sweetheart?
shareYou can not compare Michelle with Angelica , they were two completely different characters and were written completely differently. One we are supposed to identify with the other we were never supposed to. It’s like comparing Skyler White with Lydia Rodart Quayle, both do deplorable things but we are supposed to side with Skyler but not Lydia.
shareI don't really remember the details of that particular episode. But I know that there were several times, when Michelle got punished or did not get what she wanted. Actually, they did a whole episode about her getting her first punishment.
shareMichelle had to stare at a wall for 5 minutes, that's not a punishment. There was also an episode where she crawled across the table and shoved Jesse's wedding cake into her mouth preventing anyone else from having any and everyone thought it was the cutest thing ever.
shareAngelica is a bigger antagonist.
At least DJ and Stephanie were bigger than Michelle and were able to stand up her to by telling Danny he always lets her get away with everything. That's what led to Danny realizing his mistake, then giving her that pep talk about being "old enough to be punished".
The Rugrats on the other hand,we're unable to speak up or ask for help. They were babies and Angelica was the oldest. So being the brat that she is, Angelica used this to her advantage.
Michelle is not meant to be the antagonist Angelica is that’s why it’s not a legit comparison, do you understand?
share"Michelle had to stare at a wall for 5 minutes, that's not a punishment."
She was three years old. Geesh! Plus I wonder if it wasn't more than five minutes.
"There was also an episode where she crawled across the table and shoved Jesse's wedding cake into her mouth preventing anyone else from having any and everyone thought it was the cutest thing ever."
Blame that on the adults, not on the four-year-old.
I’m blaming the show for thinking that was a cute idea. You do know Michelle isn’t real right? Also staring at the wall in a comfortable chair isn’t a punishment, she was a total brat earlier and pretty much got away with it.
shareWho cares. She's not a real kid. So it really doesn't matter. Jesse sometimes acted like a bigger brat than Michelle.
He was a sore loser (playing pool episode) and way too obsessed with Elvis and his hair. Plus he was rude to Kimmy even when she didn't deserve it and blamed Stephanie when he fell off his motorcycle and broke his arms. Most uncles don't act like Jesse but it's just a show.
Geez you’d think that this forum was for discussing Full House I didn’t realize my opinion had to be approved by you. And children watch this and if the show is teaching them that running away in Disney world where they could be kidnapped and molested is not a big deal then that’s a problem. Children shouldn’t be allowed to watch this.
shareWhile I can agree that the three men could come across as exaggerated charicatures a lot of times, the girls came across as more realistic. And a lot of kids are as bratty as Michelle could be on her worst days. Many are much worse and will be complete bullies to those out of their peers, who are unlucky enough to become their victims. But I don't remember Michelle doing anything too heinous.
shareLOL no, nothing on this show was realistic, nothing. Ummm let's take a look at what Michelle did:
- She ran away from home
- She ran away in Disney World and risked getting kidnapped
- She stole from her family
- She crawled across the table and shoved Jesse's wedding cake into her mouth
- She bought a donkey without permission (she knew better)
- She mouthed off to Joey when he was trying to teach her to ride a bike
- She rode off on her stupid horse instead of doing the competition which she wanted to do
- She made everyone search for her stupid bike when she just misplaced it
- She called the joke hotline when she knew she wasn't supposed to and then lied about it
- She faked amnesia
Michelle was the definition of a spoiled brat and she was never punished. And don't even bother comparing her to Angelica because we aren't supposed to take Angelica seriously we are supposed to take Michelle seriously. Also Angelica was actually pretty funny, Michelle wasn't.
Actually, all of that sounds like rather typical behavior for a kid around her age.
But she did not fake amnesia.
Ummmm NO most kids do not run away from home and are punished when they mouth off to adults, she wasn't. Not to mention she told Joey he couldn't try in hockey because it would scare her too much, how pathetic.
And yes she absolutely did fake amnesia, you can't get amnesia from falling on your arm.
Actually, I don't see why some kids wouldn't do those things.
And as for the amnesia episodes, it is made clear that Michelle's memory was gone. She was even talking to her lost memory (which sounds a bit weird out of the context, but it worked because a set of twins could play against each other). I guess that they didn't care about making all details in the falling scene too real, because it could have hurt a child actor for real otherwise.
You are so far out of touch and I hope you never have children, most children are not out of control like Michelle is.
Actually it was obvious she faked it, first of all her "acting" was so terrible it was obvious she didn't have amnesia and she landed on her arm, amnesia is caused by a head injury.
i thought she got amnesia from falling off her horse and hit her head.
shareWatch the scene again she fell on her arm, you can't get amnesia from falling on your arm therefore she faked it.
shareYou can't expect TV producers to allow 8-year-old child stars to do stunts where they are falling HEAD FIRST.
That's a safety concern that could lead to serious injury and lawsuits.
I'm not talking about the actress, I'm talking about the character she didn't hit her head, also her bad acting was more evidence that she was faking. Also it makes sense if you know Michelle's character, she was jealous that there was so much going on in the house and she wanted attention.
shareMichelle Tanner is played by not one, but TWO twin child actresses. Producers need to be extremely careful
when working with kids. Which is why coaches probably trained them
to fall safely without getting hurt for real.
If your child was on Tv, wouldn't you rather have them perform safely? Even if the stunts aren't as realistic as you hoped?
I'm not talking about the actress (also Michelle wasn't played by twins that's an urban myth), I'm talking about the character, she didn't hit her head therefore it's impossible to get amnesia. Amnesia is a brain injury, it doesn't happen when you fall on your arm. She faked it, it's beyond obvious.
shareI can't believe how unintelligent you are. Of course she faked it and didn't really have anmesia you know why??? Becuase it's called ACTING. It's a show not real life.
Only an careless neglectful idiot would allow children MK and Ashley's age to pull off a dangerous stunt like jumping off a horse and land on their damn head. They'd be badly hurt and paralyzed from neck down,and be wheelchair and ventilator bound like Christopher Reeve (Superman for the 70s).
All of it just to satisfy viewers like you!
OK let's talk about actress vs. character: The CHARACTER didn't hit her head, she hit her arm, it's impossible to get amnesia from falling on your arm as it is a brain injury therefore the only logical explanation is that she faked it and it's well within her character to fake having amnesia, again she's the one who stole from her family.
Also you are a sick person for poking fun at Christopher Reeve.
She's not the only character in a to show whose like that. On the George Lopez show, Carmen, the teenage girl runs away all the way to San Francisco b/c the parents didn't approve of her sh!tty boyfriend. Mind you, she was only 15 and could've gotten kidnapped and raped.
And after George found her, she got angry and mouthed off to them saying "it's my like I can do what I want. I'm almost 16 I'm a woman now."
According to the mom, she's suppose to be a regular misunderstood teenager whose been a victim of bullying at her high school and has no friends. She's not seen as an antagonist but she's 10x brattier than Michelle.
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Nobody is suppose to take Michelle seriously b/c she's not real. Most toddlers don't go around saying catch praises like "You got it dude" and "No way Jose", or singing 60s and 70s songs with their uncles. It's all for laughs.
And No!!!! She's not a bad influence b/c parents should be mature enough to understand THEY are responsible for raising their children and not Michelle. That's the worst excuse ever.
I'm talking about within the context of the show which is what this board is for. Children who are brought up correctly are not out of control like Michelle is. Children still watch this show and it sets a very bad example, it's reality whether you like it or not.
shareJust b/c Michelle sets a bad example doesn't mean Kids will turn out that way. If my kids wanna watch Full House, that's fine with me. However, I'm educated enough to raise them to have manners and respect. And I won't tolerate bad behavior just b/c of the fact that they "see stuff on tv".
I use to "see stuff on Tv" all the time, but since I was raised properly, I turned out fine.
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Every TV show you can think off has scenes and characters who set bad examples. Anyone who's fearful of their kids being badly influenced by TV are clearly not good parents. They clearly don't know what it means to teach their kids the difference between reality and fiction.
You know what else is risky??? Kids going to school and being influenced by peers who disrespect teachers, cuss, dress like sluts, ditch class, smoke, drink, and bully others. You're telling me you'd stop sending your kids to school for all these reasons??? That's stupid.
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Damn you take TV way too seriously and its both laughable and creepy. No one in the real world takes Michelle seriously except you.
-On the Rugrats, the babies on took off their clothes and were butt naked. You're telling me Nickelodeon should be sued the Rugrats shouldve been removed from the network?
- Do you honestly think you have complete control over what your kids watch in THIS time period? This isn't the 80s/90s anymore. Kids have access to phones, iPads, computers, YouTube, friends who have devices, relatives who have devices, schools and libraries with computers, the Internet. Kids today are NOT sheltered by anything In a world filled with technology. Plus, what are you gonna do once they turn 18 and are legally allowed to watch what they want without your consent? What about when they move out, get married and get their own place? Idiot!!!
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I'm not defending her cause I never once said her behavior and antics were ok and I never once argued that Michelle was a nice innocent kid.
Wow. Are you seriously saying that changing a babies diaper is the same as molesting? I suppose when your kids were infants you "molested" them when they soiled their diapers to keep them clean. In fact, every parent who ever had kids "molested"'their kids before they were potty trained right. You give off very creepy vibes when Talking about children. Makes me uncomfortable with the fact that you actually have kids and a wife who puts up with you.
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Common sense tells you if the actors were even suspected of touching an infant inappropriately, they would be fired from the show Immediately and never allowed to return.
Common sense tells you that if you were correct, that episode wouldn't be allowed to air on TV EVER!
Common sense tells you theres literally no way to change a babies diaper, clean her, or powder her without touching her butt or taking her clothes off.
Common sense tells you, that Michelle was played by real life human twins babies that needed to be nurtured and taken care of back stage. She's not a doll that can be tossed aside.
They were shown on camera touching an infant inappropriately, Joey had his hand all over her no no area. Joey wasn't changing her he just put his hands on her for no apparent reason. Sorry but the video evidence supports me.
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Michelle was punished a few times. She didn't always get her way.
-She didn't get her way when She wanted to play Yankee Doodle but Jesse and Joey gave it to Derek. They also rightfully sent her to sit in the audience when she wouldn't cooperate.
- She got punished when she called that number on tv to tell jokes and was caught by Danny. He sent her to be an hour early for the rest of the week. Trust me......for a 6-year-old its a pretty effective punishment. Most kids that age are very antsy and hate going to bed early or sitting still on one place for a long time. That's why in a kinder/first grade class, 5,6,7 year-olds are sent to a "time out chair" or told to put their heads down on a desk. The idea of sitting still for a long time is torture for little kids.
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You clearly never been around 5-6 year olds. Kids that age HATE taking naps let alone going to bed early. The idea of sitting in one place for a long time for time-out is also torture. Kids that age are ANTSY, have energy, and like to move around.
The idea of going to bed early while their siblings get to stay up late is upsetting for a little kid. Growing up, my mom and relatives used this punishment on my cousins and I if we misbehaved. I clearly remember lying in the bed crying myself to sleep cause I wanted to keep playing. Believe me! It worked and we never misbehaved that way again!
That's why kindergarten teachers bench kids at recess or make them put their heads on their desks. Mind you, teachers aren't even allowed to belt kids or they get fired. Just like taking away iPhones from teenagers is effective. Cause to them, the idea of no iPhones, wifi, social media, or texting is torture. The idea of teens not being grounded and allowed to go out, hang out with friends, or see their boyfriend/girlfriend for weeks is also effective.
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Great idea. Because 6 year old Michelle had a full time job and was earning her own money to pay off that phone bill. They don't get allowances (which is still rightfully the parents money since they worked for it)
Forget first grade!
At 6 years old, we expect her to job hunting and look for jobs to make her own money.
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In another post you deserved that Michelle should be beaten so badly that she can't stand or sit up until she's 22. That form of "beating" is child abuse.
Some of the antics she's done deserves a time-out or no tv, etc. but to beat her to the extreme that she's disabled is cruel.
It makes me nervous about the idea that you have childre.
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But why do you fucking care? Is Michelle your child? No! If you had a child who acted that way, I'd understand why you'd be concerned. But she's not even real.
Just like Regina George from Mean Girls isn't real. And don't give me crap about Mean Girls not protraying real life b/c it IS realistic to some extent. Kids in high school can be mean and shady by pretending to be your friend. Girls get jealous and intimidate each other, girls steal each other's crush and boyfriend.
Oh yeah! And Regina tried to play the victim by crying when Aaron Samuels dumped her. Her getting hit by a bus doesn't make her a sympathetic either.
Having to sit in a chair and stare at the wall for five minutes isn’t punishment, I promise Michelle learned nothing, she was an out of control brat
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shareExactly, she endangered her life and she caused everyone to almost have a heart attack over her. Not only that but she wasn't even sorry. That's not the kind of thing that a "talk" just takes care of. I first would have dumped her in a daycare center for the rest of the trip and she would not have been allowed to set foot inside the park again, then she'd be grounded for 3 months when we got home, no desert, no TV, no friends, can't leave the house for any reason other than school. Running away was a very serious matter.
shareAnd she ran away a lot little brat
shareExactly this wasn't the first time she did it, clearly she didn't learn her lesson the first time.
shareDon't be sad that Michelle Tanner got the Hugs and kisses you always wanted. It's ok. Go to therapy it helps, get counseling, take parenting classes. You obviously have post abandonment issues from your childhood.
-Don't be jealous that the cast of Full House always gave hugs and kisses or that they hug non-stop. Go on shows your kids affection. It's your responsibility to hug and kiss them to make them feel loved it's ok.
Strawman and you’re starting to freak me out, I don’t want hugs from you my standards are much higher than that. seek help and lay off the full house, it’s starting to alter your perception of reality
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But here's the amazing thing: No one gives a sh!t what you think.
shareWell no one on this board gives a sh!t about that you think about Full House.
shareClearly you do because you keep responding, either that or you enjoy me putting you in your place. Either way you need help.
shareAnd clearly you do care what I think and you DO care about Michelle b/c you always respond to be and you pay attention to every little detail Michelle does.
shareNaw I get a kick out of putting you in your place. But initially all I did was state how I felt about this show (it's not a fans only site and my opinion was valid) and you flipped out because you have a very unnatural obsession with Full House and Michelle Tanner, she isn't real get over it.
shareSo you're saying you basically have no life. That's why you like putting people down.
Also you're not putting me in my place cause what you're saying makes zero sense and you're 100%
Wrong.
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It is unhealthy to get a kick out of insulting other people. Yeah, seek help. And if you admit that Michelle isn't real, why does it bother you what she did or didn't do? And even if she had been a real person, all of those things had happened at least twentyfive years ago. How does it matter now? Hating a fictional character from a '90s sitcom is just pathetic. So again, seek help.
shareNot insulting anyone, just calling it like it is. You need to grow up and quit playing the victim. Her behavior is an issue because children are allowed to watch this stupid program unsupervised and her bratiness teaches children that it's OK to act like her and that's very damaging for their well being. You are the one who flips out because someone doesn't like Michelle Tanner and she isn't real, you have no reason to defend this and this says a lot about your maturity or shall I say lack of maturity.
shareFirstly, Michelle was nothing but a normal little kid. She was never as bad as you say she was. Kids will be a bit bratty some times, because that is just natural kid behavior. And many kids from TV were worse than Michelle Tanner.
Secondly, children in 2020 don't watch this show. It is twentyfive years since they cancelled it now. And as for us 30-somethings, who did watch this show as kids, we are mostly fine, because a TV show won't harm you.
Thirdly, you are the one flipping out and acting immature. Not me.
Totally wrong, she was completely out of control, children who are raised appropriately do not act like Michelle. She should have been spanked. Do you not understand how serious it is for a 6 year old to run away in a crowded theme park? She very easily could have been kidnapped, molested, murdered and then her corpse thrown into a ditch. Not only that but she wasn't even sorry when Danny found her and she wasn't punished. You should not be allowed anywhere near children.
How do you know? They can find the episodes on the internet and it still comes on. Not only that but you can still find the DVD's
Not flipping out at all, just expressing my opinion, you have a very unnatural obsession with Michelle and you think I'm being too mean to someone who isn't real. You need therapy.
Michelle is NOT responsible for raising kids. Michelle isn't responsible for teaching kids manners and how to behave. That's the parents job. Blaming tv shows for children's misbehavior is a lame excuse ppl use who don't know how to be good parents.
In middle school, lots of kids including me were allowed to watch Simpsons and South Park. Both shows contain inappropriate behavior but since me and my friends were raised correctly by our parents, we didn't exhibit the same behavior as Bart Simpson, Eric Cartman, Kyle, Stan, etc.
How many times do I have to tell you this: MICHELLE ISN'T REAL!!! So no sh!t she's not raising kids because she isn't a real person. This show is directed at children though and it's glorifying bratty behavior which is damaging to a child's upbringing.
South Park and the Simpsons are not meant to be viewed by children, Full House is that's the difference dumbass.
I think it's time that I made available to you a program that I think will help you, it's called Strive Bayside and at the program you will learn how to deal with your inability to distinguish real from make believe, you'll learn how to ride the bus and you'll learn how to check out a library book:https://www.pslstrive.org/bayside Please let me know when you're done filling out your application.
You're seriously blaming a 33 year old sitcom and fictional little girl for kids acting like brats? That's lower than stupid.
- Besides, Michelle had moments of being nice and seeing the error of her ways, and being punished:
1) Durng a Christmas episode, the old man at the store was sad about being Lonley on Christmas. Michelle felt bad for him and told Jesse to invite him to the house.
2) When she didn't get to play Yankee Doodle, Michelle was mad and refuse to cooperate. Jesse and Joey told her to sit in the audience and refuse to give into her. Then they lectured her about being a team player. Later Michelle learned her lesson and comforted Derrick (who got the part) when had stage fright.
3) When Joey was teaching Michelle's class, the kids including Michelle, were misbehaving and Joey sent her to the principals office. Afterward, Danny agreed that Michelle was being disrespectful. Later on, she admitted her mistake and apologized to Joey.
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1) Danny was a nice, goody goody obsessed with hugging everyone. So I'm sure he wouldn't mind. He also didn't mind when Gia showed up at the house uninvited and unexpectidely to threaten Stephanie. (They were still enemies at the time and how Gia even found out her address is beyond me.)
2) Even if she sucked, they would've given her the part until Derek performed at the last minute and did a spectacular job. Jesse even mentioned that "Michelle needs learn to be a team player." And Danny agreed that Michelle needs to accept their decision. It's not like Danny defended her and yelled at Jesse and Joey for not giving her the part.
3) I definetly DID NOT feel bad for Michelle when she got in trouble with Joey. Nobody did! Even Danny didn't feel bad for her as she got sent to her room. If Michelle didnt apologize, Joey would've left and she'd be stuck with another Sub that she hated.
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That "awwww" sound effect does not mean the audience will feel sorry for her. I definitely didn't feel bad. Did YOU feel bad all b/c of the "awwww" sound effects?? Probably not.
Just like I don't always think certain scenes are nessesarly funny although there's a laugh track.
Uh yeah it does, the audience is telling us how we are supposed to feel and the audience was telling us we were supposed to feel sorry for Michelle because mean old Joey sent her to the principals office. You don't even understand Full House.
shareExcept the audience and laugh tracks can't control how we feel.
I personally didn't feel bad for her and I don't think anyone did. Even if people felt sorry for her, doesn't mean she didn't deserve it. It doesn't mean Joey should let her off the hook.
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So you're telling that laugh tracks control everything??? People have no control over their emotions! That's the idiotic logic you're telling me right????
shareThe laugh track is telling us how the scene is supposed to be interpreted according to the writers. This isn’t rocket science you dumbass.
shareI know of a program that I think will help you and Wildflower it's called Strive Bayside: https://www.pslstrive.org/bayside
shareWell, for someone who`s never liked Michelle in the first place, I agree that she should`ve been taken out of Disney World. But to her defense, she came around and let Stephanie be the Princess of the day at the end. So she did have her moment where she had her change of heart, regardless of how unlikable she was.
shareThen who was gonna watch her? The others don’t deserved to be punished by having to baby sit her
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