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He should have taken the money


Sorry Serpico. You should have taken the money. Hundreds of tax free dollars every month in the 1970s. Back when that basement apartment in SoHo was probably $200 a month. With a hot blond girlfriend. And a job where you get to smoke pot? Go with the flow, my man. Now, I'm not sayin' let the rapists go free. But gambling money? I mean, why not? Flash forward to 2013. Gambling is sanctioned by government all the time (casinos, lotteries). And as for criminality ... well lets just say the criminals who almost destroyed America are all still waking up in their Park Ave. condos every day and going to work at Goldman Sachs.

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Slippery slope yo. Money is more corrupting than power. Next would be planted evidence , false arrests , shakedowns , brutality , and legal murder. Actually its here.

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Perhaps he should have taken the money. Perhaps he should simply have given in immediately and become part of the system. I believe the point is well made throughout the film that his life would have turned out much differently had he bought into the rampant, endemic, systemic corruption that is presented in the film. But then there would have been no point in making the film 'Bad Lieutenant' years later, and that would have been a shame, since Harvey Keitel plays a corrupt cop much better than Al Pacino ever could.

I believe the point of the film is to show what happens when one man says 'No' to a system with which he disagrees. Unfortunately, disagreeing with Serpico's disagreement says more about the viewer than it says about the film or its characters... agreed?

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"Harvey Keitel plays a corrupt cop much better than Al Pacino ever could".

Well, he`s never tried. So we don`t know, do we?



"facts are stupid things" - Ronald Reagan

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I believe the point of the film is to show what happens when one man says 'No' to a system with which he disagrees. Unfortunately, disagreeing with Serpico's disagreement says more about the viewer than it says about the film or its characters... agreed?

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Pretty much.



"facts are stupid things" - Ronald Reagan

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Those of you saying he should've taken the money are the biggest goddamn idiots... Jesus Christ, I can't believe the stupidity of some... But then again, it's goes to prove that your soul is rotten to begin with...

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Agreed. In many ways money is power. The wrong kind.

Send lawyers,guns and money/The *beep* has hit the fan

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Then again, the honest Policeman can sleep at night.

If a bent copper gets caught, the first thing he does is turn on his friends to save his own ass.

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That's true enough, willjohn.

Serpico was a guy who had a conscience, and used it, to stand by his position, which is admirable. Too bad the guys he worked with didn't back him up when he needed backing up, and ended up almost losing his life as a result.

Your post succinctly points out another thing, willjohn: That people who cave into the temption to do bad, corrupt stuff end up not only losing all self-respect, but they end up losing the respect of their workmates or whoever. Even if Serpico had taken the money, he probably would've been screwed up the ass by his fellow coppers anyhow.

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Translation: "I did not get the plot of the movie at all."

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You absolutely do not take that money.

Where do you think that money came from? Thin air? That it doesn't serve someone to pay you?

You take that money, it buys your silence. Even if you claim otherwise later, you're a corrupt cop, they rat you out, you go to jail. They own you. You're not a cop anymore, you're just playing one. It's not about morals - it's a fact. You take a single dollar they get you on the company line and you can't ever fight back.

They buy your silence and then they run the streets that's how it works. That's where that money was coming from - the drugs, the prostitution, the violence, the organized crime, fraud on so many levels. You take that money you can't fight it and then you get nothing done.

That's how it goes. You put it in your pocket, it's done. It's not even evidence at that point - it's just a bribe you're holding that nobody wants to acknowledge.

On another level, you have to fight this ideologically. These people didn't murder him, they threatened to, they probably tried to smack him around plenty of times, but no, they'd never murder him. Their conviction was too weak. He represents a higher calling, one that they'd all suppressed.

Even if he'd done his job and didn't take a single dime, it's enough to make everyone nervous. They'd say it's because they're worried about him ratting them out and sure, that'd be true.

But what they're really scared of, is that he'd rat them out and he'd be right to do so, and they'd be in the cell knowing what they'd done all along was wrong and they did it because they're lemmings.

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No victim no crime.

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Your comment and most of the responses truly prove the sad state society finds itself in these days...No sense of morality and humanity--it's all about the money and *beep* dignity and integrity.

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His refusal has nothing to do with the morality of gambling. It was more of a honesty vs dishonesty thing.

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I think there's an argument for taking some of the money.

Like it or not, many big city police departments looked at policing as a means of containing crime, not eliminating it. Gambling, prostitution, drugs -- these weren't something you could eliminate by arresting people. Taking payoffs was a tax on criminal enterprises that took some of their money, and usually it was taken by coercion and intimidation that emphasized police authority. I think the police also still put pressure on bookies, hookers, and dealers to ply their trade in sanctioned areas and out of other areas. Taking a payoff was not a license to operate any way they wanted.

I also think there's probably a hierarchy of bribes. Taking a bribe to kill or beat up someone for organized crime was a darker thing that a lot of cops wouldn't do, even if they were strong-arming payoffs from bookies. You also wouldn't require a bribe from someone to investigate a homicide or blackmail money from someone by threatening them with a trumped up charge.

I think inside some of these contexts, Pacino taking some bribe money isn't quite so horrible.

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I'd have kept my mouth shut. Gambling , prostitution and soft drugs are victimless crimes anyway.

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The only problem with taking the bribe is that you get compromised, and can get blackmailed or sucked into worse things trying not to get exposed.

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gambling and soft drugs for the most part yes. prostitution? HELL NO. this wasnt some Swedish model with rules and regulations, std checks ect . this was rough pimping and creating addict prostitutes you beat if they didnt listen

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Sorry, Starmaker.
Corrupt cops carrying guns and the force of law are among society’s most dangerous criminals.

Remember that oath?
The one he swore, right hand raised?
To uphold the laws?

No, he shouldn’t have taken the money.
Not a one of them should have.

When the offer comes up, here is the correct response, courtesy of Russell Crowe’s Richie Ross from American Gangster:

I just can’t do that.

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Excellent post.

You can't be just a "little bit" dirty or corrupt. It's like the old saying about being a "little bit pregnant". You either are or you aren't.

Sure he could've donated the money to charity. But then he would have always been "on the take". How could he prove he was doing something noble and giving the money away?

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We're all.a bit corrupt in our own way.

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Having integrity almost never pays off.

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Not financially.

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