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So apparently, an act of forced sexual violation (or yes - the r word) from women (as in this film) on one man...

posted 8 months ago by TheMan18 (12562)
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... can even go so far as to actually KILL their victim and not just hurt him mentally and physically also, like SPOILERS, portrayed in this movie?

So female perpetrators can also use their bodies forcefully and intimately in a DEADLY way as well?

My oh my indeed. And yeah, as if needed saying, the matter alone even in that "reversed" sense is OBVIOUSLY not any kind of "dream" as some male fantasists have erroneously and egregiously "claimed" (I would add, NOT even in that unique, cynical, potentially exceptional way ala "less say de-facto official harmful examples of BULLYING) and can be in its own way or just in its way just as personally nightmarish (besides law, morality, society and in today's day and age, active internet outrage) as those other traditional examples that we all know about so well and not just obviously from movies, where such subject matter is also popular.

But seriously...

Also, do some crazy women like portrayed HERE ever think of it in terms of "But what even if we get away legally, world finds out and people will strongly dislike us for it?" like say normal women do in vulnerable senses typically known to INNOCENT PEOPLE? Or is there a difference in mentality here, besides the OBVIOUS guilt factor and whatnot, thanks.

[–] liscarkat (16602) 8 months ago

Please enroll in a writing course and try again.

[–] TheMan18 (12562) 8 months ago

Yeah alright.

[–] OnanTheBarbarian (10530) 8 months ago

Homey, this movie is right up your alley.🤣 It's every man's dream but it could never be made today but because we all know 99% of rapes are committed by women on unwilling men.

[–] TheMan18 (12562) 8 months ago

And what about murder and other forms of violent crime?

[–] OnanTheBarbarian (10530) 8 months ago

Okay, sorry, do they kill him?

I just think the idea that a woman can rape a man is beyond ridiculous.

[–] TheMan18 (12562) 8 months ago

Well, as for the last part, it may be somewhat rare but it has happened and its not as "beyond ridiculous" as some may THINK, if you think about it carefully, besides, apart from obvious violently forced examples here and there, if one is ordered and say under some kind of threat or duress, given how consent is important and "no means no" etc, that can be considered it, yes female on male sexual assault or the r-worded deed. (See also other films for point like "The Book of Revelation" (2006), "The Violent Years" (1956) and others here and there.)

Also, SPOILERS ALERT - they basically forcefully screw him to death, force themselves onto him sexually to the point where he looses his life, disturbing no doubt. But yes they kill him via forced sex.

[–] TheMan18 (12562) 8 months ago

"I just think the idea that a woman can rape a man is beyond ridiculous."

If its not too ridiculous to believe that a woman can murder a man or violently assault him in some or other way, why is the latter idea really so difficult to believe and imagine like that? OK it might be for various reasons less common perhaps but not totally out of bounds of reality and not totally non-existent either, besides - the r-worded deed often refers to any as such sexual activity where one party isn't able to consent, and not just when it is obviously violently forced or the examples that we commonly know.

[–] OnanTheBarbarian (10530) 8 months ago

But yes they kill him via forced sex.

Well, it is a comedy.

[–] TheMan18 (12562) 8 months ago

I am sure, and if you search hard enough you will find them too, that even SERIOUS films have been made with those subjects and featuring those scenes with those types of outcomes.

And this movie is mostly I believe a BLACK COMEDY EXPLOITATION AND SEX DRAMA genre-wise.

Outright COMEDIES by the way, regardless of how "absurd" or otherwise, wouldn't commonly feature scenes and themes of deaths of any gender or sex via forced sexual activity.

And my other main point was that as common as one other example in life undeniably is and known throughout time immemorial, this one less common as such is also existent and possible and not ridiculous beyond the bounds of reality.

[–] TheMan18 (12562) 8 months ago

"Homey, this movie is right up your alley"
I can watch it, and plenty of other movies for that matter, for reasons besides its "subject matter" - no seriously. :)

[–] TheMan18 (12562) 8 months ago

I've been watching action movies and horror movies with gore and violence all my life but that didn't make me any kind of violence fetishist either - same with movies with THAT topic and especially from that OTHER KIND OF ANGLE.

[–] TheMan18 (12562) 8 months ago

As sensitive and in the league of its OWN as the theme and topic of sexual violence, sex crimes, sexual abuse etc etc etc, IS in our world in GENERAL though, as much as I absolutely overall DON'T deny it for ANY reason(s) let alone selfish ones that people freely speak of in today's day and age, then again, what else IS new?

[–] TheMan18 (12562) 8 months ago

Quentin Tarantino apparently likes this movie too.

[–] TheMan18 (12562) 8 months ago

"Homey, this movie is right up your alley.🤣 It's every man's dream but it could never be made today but because we all know 99% of rapes are committed by women on unwilling men." I know this was meant to be darkly satirical coming from you, but just to inform you mate if you or others think or don't think anything noteworthy or appropriate...

ITS JUST A FILM and not any type of let alone REAL LIFE statistic on anything, including, PERHAPS, matters that exist in somewhat rare or otherwise EXCEPTIONS, let alone intending to "revise" ANYTHING or offer ultra real insight into this or that, no matter how sensitive or taboo such issues might be.

I was thinking of writing long essay but still...

Oh and yeah, shall we do MURDER statistics NEXT OR indulge in revisionism or potential stereotype like thoughts?

Oh wait I forgot, sexual abuse matters have their OWN facts and nuances, as well as common unfortunate reality around them, and it exists very much in a category of its own. Fair enough - WORLD. :)

[–] OnanTheBarbarian (10530) 8 months ago

No, basically I'm satirizing the attempt in our society to equate males to females.

I know this movie was made in the 1960's when they thought they were revolutionizing relations between men and women according to some new feminism. But looking back compared to now they were still very traditional in their sex roles.

I admit I haven't seen this movie but I have a hard time believing a man was actually raped in this film. It was probably more some zany female hanging allover the man and then he gets aroused and gets on top of her.

That's not how rape happens to women in the real world.

[–] TheMan18 (12562) 8 months ago

"That's not how rape happens to women in the real world."
We all know!

[–] OnanTheBarbarian (10530) 8 months ago

Describe how a woman forces sexual intercourse on a man?

[–] TheMan18 (12562) 8 months ago

Use your imagination, and I for one, and not for "lack of knowledge", would rather avoid going into details. If that's alright with you?

Also, up to you of course, but why don't you SEE this film FIRST.

[–] TheMan18 (12562) 8 months ago

Plus, the r-worded deed or s.a. term isn't universally limited to typical examples of people using PHYSICAL FORCE in such deeds, it could be various forms of threat or manipulation or taking advantage of someone when they are unable to consent.

[–] OnanTheBarbarian (10530) 8 months ago

I disagree. Pressuring a person to have sex when they have the option to say no is not rape. I mean if someone has sex for a better job or to get a raise that's their choice. If there's no threat of physical violence - no rape.

You can always walk away and tell someone to take their job and shove it.

Rape must involve a threat of violence and forced insertion.

Women can not rape men.

[–] TimeTunnel (4691) 8 months ago

"Women can not rape men."

Hmmm...hmmm. 🤔

https://rapelust.com/video/king-harald-raped-by-lagertha/

[–] samoanjoes (51267) 8 months ago

It's not called "forced sexual intercourse". It's called rape.

[–] TheMan18 (12562) 8 months ago

I KNOW I KNOW, its just that : a). DICTIONARY definition, that is exactly what that word means and b). Also, these days, I feel rather UNCOMFORTABLE OPENLY typing that word and also no big deal of course in this instance but... It is rather rare when women are the perpetrators of it, and also, in this instance, although the r word is often used as well, it is more commonly referred to as 'sexual assault', but anyways...

[–] TheMan18 (12562) 8 months ago

Besides, not intending to show off or anything but...

Unlike some very stereotypical people out there, I at least ACKNOWLEDGE some or other stuff by referencing out loud and agreeing with their direct DICTIONARY DEFINITIONS and I don't of course deny their actual meanings and belongings out there.

[–] samoanjoes (51267) 8 months ago

You could have just wrote "r*pe". Forced sexual intercourse sounds like you're belittling it.

[–] TheMan18 (12562) 8 months ago

"Belittling"? I honestly for the life of me don't understand how, That's exactly what that act is, FORCED (as in, obviously against someone's will when they do not want it or agree to it), on a basic and dictionary definition sort of level. And I was AGREEING with it.

Also. How come anything, with maybe a few not so noticeable exceptions for example, said that way about other forms of violence and wrongdoings doesn't come to any as such related suspicions, but here? Boom...

[–] TheMan18 (12562) 8 months ago

"Forced sexual intercourse sounds like you're belittling it."
God! We don't really have a choice in this life in how to more conveniently and comfortably communicate without raising suspicions or inviting criticism like that. God! I'm not mad and all, but it is frustrating, to be honest.

[–] samoanjoes (51267) 8 months ago

It's sugar coating. Imagine a deadbeat father saying, "I'm not a deadbeat. I just chose to leave my son with his mother and never return".

[–] TheMan18 (12562) 8 months ago

Well, its not quite that either, and it is forced anyway, sexual violence perhaps more appropriate term?

And OK as I said before I am not intentionally or otherwise sugar coating ANYTHING, I am just saying that I am UNCOMFORTABLE in typing that word for when I often did it, in past, I had people one-sidedly put off by it or sometimes had moments when they refused to talk to me about it and whatnot, besides as I said before, that's what the term does mean dictionary wise, and I am not even using it INSTEAD of it so much as you know...

[–] TheMan18 (12562) 8 months ago

And OK maybe it is sort of that way for some but for others it may just be easier to communicate based on a rather in and of itself disturbing and off-putting subject for some. And my main overall theme and point of this thread was that such an act could be also DEADLY - as shown in this movie. And I kind of wish you also stayed on point and wondered if it could be that way as well, in addition to it being what it is in general etc.

[–] TheMan18 (12562) 8 months ago

OK mate and folks, DON'T WORRY, samo and I are cool, no problems.

[–] TheMan18 (12562) 8 months ago

Tell us something we don't know. :) And yeah, its just a FILM as well, a film which happens to have that subject from that slightly less than usual angle.

[–] TheMan18 (12562) 8 months ago

Now see if you can define murder or even state that "It's not called pre-meditated killing or taking away one's life, its called murder".

[–] TheMan18 (12562) 8 months ago

OK folks, especially samo and Mr Onan - LET'S JUST TAKE IT EASY PLEASE and give it a rest, thanks. No offense, and I DO apologize for any inconvenience, but let's not get too carried away please and yes I DO understand and whatnot.

I also have to say - some of us here have gone a little off topic, maybe SEE the film first AND THEN DEBATE ALL THOSE aspects including ONE I mentioned here, that this act can even be, as at least portrayed in this movie, downright deadly, which is serious enough even in PURE THEORY as it IS.

I will come back maybe later but sorry folks, I won't be here for at least a few weeks, let's just give it a rest please, thank you.

[–] Wint3rFir3 (6931) 8 months ago

Yes, a rape can lead to death, it's literally physical violence.

[–] TheMan18 (12562) 8 months ago

As was portrayed in this movie. And yes it is that too.