Beethoven was black
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WELL...HE DID HAVE RHYTHM.
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Sorry, but that claim is 'cultural appropriation'.
Yep, I've read the article.
Then again...considering that the cradle of modern humanity is in Africa, we're all black.
Yessas! π―β
the cradle is blocked off by the largest hot desert in the world, well above where blacks are from. The same black people who did not discover Madagascar, an island only 250 miles off the coast of Africa. I don't think they had the adventurer spirit or technology to make it through the Sahara. But I can see why you would believe that. Blacks have appropriated the entire continent, Egyptian history, and a port created by Europeans in South Africa, (a completely desolate area).
shareYou're a stupid racist blabbermouth.
Talk to your toilet.
Yeah, facts are racist. Sorry that the history of black people just proves that every other race is superior. So yeah, facts, history, science are all racist but still right. CRY HARDER cause your little inferior complex doesn't mean shit, neither do your labels.
shareJFZ (1134) 3 minutes ago
Yeah, facts are racist. Sorry that the history of black people just proves that every other race is superior. So yeah, facts, history, science are all racist but still right. CRY HARDER cause your little inferior complex doesn't mean shit, neither do your labels.
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Are you suggesting there's such a thing as a smart racist blabbermouth?
shareβΊ...your rhetorical question doesn't really need an answer.
However, there's probably no smart blabbermouth.
But there are certainly smart racists.
Well, I used the word Nubian and while re-reading the whole thread, it came into my mind that it's about time for a good movie with Nubian Royalty.
The new Cleopatra show was the wrong approach, besides that Cleopatra wasn't Nubian. The anger of the Egyptians was understandable. And while Cleopatra was definitely an interesting character, she wasn't an important queen.
The time of the Egyptian empire was over.
There were very important Royals in South Egypt/North Sudan, long before Cleopatra. Unfortunately, most of them vanished in the dust of history but did that ever hinder to make a good story? E.g. Ragnar Lodbrok became the main character of the Vikings-series though it's even not confirmed that he ever existed.
My idea isn't new, but now it's about time.
Enough material exists and is known for a longer, here NYT 1979 (!).
Ancient Nubian Artifacts Yield Evidence of Earliest Monarchy
Evidence of the oldest recognizable monarctiy in human history, preceding the rise of the earliest Egyptian kings by several generations, has been discovered in artifacts from ancient Nubia in Africa.
https://www.nytimes.com/1979/03/01/archives/ancient-nubian-artifacts-yield-evidence-of-earliest-monarchy-clues.html
To digest that culture shock Beethoven composed suitable music for his 'bros'. βΊ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7eOaIiHB58U π»β π΅β πΆβ
It's fascinating how blacks have invented so much stuff elsewhere, yet they haven't invented jack in Africa.
"If Africa was the cradle of mankind, it was only an indifferent kindergarten. Europe and Asia were our principal schools."-The Origin of Races, Carleton S. Coon, 1962, pp.658
Well, Egypt is an African country.
And the Egyptian achievements were definitely not a "kindergarten".
Egypt is transcontinental and historically interconnected with and considered part of the Levant culturally. North Africa is racially mostly West Eurasian or Caucasoid, and closer to Europeans than to West Africans. When people say African, they tend to use it as a racial term and mean Sub-Saharan African or Negroid (aka black people).
shareSo you think blacks lay claim to the entire continent? Where did you go to school? Marion Barry High?
shareI didn't say "entire continent"...read again.
You should learn how to drop a better straw man.
Besides that your insult is stupid...we've gymnasia here, not high schools.
You replied to someone making a black comment, not an African one. Made you should learn to read. Egypt and their achievements have NOTHING to do with black people. Black people were ball washers in Egypt, because they were brought there as slaves, because they were seen as subhuman, because they behaved like animals.
shareRead again what that "someone" said/quoted:
""If Africa was the cradle of mankind, it was only an indifferent kindergarten."
Then you jumped in with your straw man and insults.
Again: TALK TO YOUR TOILET, JFZ !
Bye.
Blacks haven't invented shit.
I remember having a similar conversation/argument on here a few year back. I posed this same question to some BLM-type and after hours of 'googling'...the best he could come up with were 'additions' to pre-existing inventions (refrigerated trucks, etc) but never the actual refrigerator nor the truck.
I think Blacks (and their sycophantic enablers) have now realised that they haven't invented anything throughout documented history...so are now attempting to re-write matters further back?
Yes, apparently we learn that there were black people in Europe in the Middle Ages. The Cheddar Man was also dark-skinned and so that means black folks are more native to the British Isles than white folks.
shareSo, needed to refresh my cloudy knowledge of the Cheddar Man.
True, dark-skinned but with blue or green eyes, hmmm.
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/6/69/Cheddar_Man%2C_National_History_Museum%2C_London.jpg/660px-Cheddar_Man%2C_National_History_Museum%2C_London.jpg
Well, there are so many finds that need to be reconsidered.
And unfortunately so much is finally lost in the dust of history.
I'll never forget that special bog body.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windeby_I
For decades it was thought it was a young woman who was executed for adultery.
An anthropologist put that right. In fact, it was a young man whose hairband slipped over his eyes and who starved or died of bad teeth (jaw infection).
You know, I genuinely try to stop to think in the categories "more" or "less".
At the end we're all humans...with red blood.
Headline in The Guardian: "First modern Britons had 'dark to black' skin, Cheddar Man DNA analysis reveals"
https://www.theguardian.com/science/2018/feb/07/first-modern-britons-dark-black-skin-cheddar-man-dna-analysis-reveals
Subtitle in The Guardian: he had blue eyes
And here (again) a reconstruction of the Cheddar Man:
https://i.guim.co.uk/img/media/a15bc2fe613c998ee092c24ee0ee795d00a69645/215_211_2500_1500/master/2500.jpg?width=620&dpr=2&s=none
Sorry, he doesn't look 'Nubian' to me. but I'm not an anthropologist.
And also in the Guardian article:
"Today, about 10% of white British ancestry can be linked to this ancient population."
What's about the 90% others of white British ancestry?
What I'm trying to say is, that we always have to be very careful with our conclusions based on a few finds or - as with the Cheddar Man - based on one find.
These are amazing analyses!
And certainly we need to think and discuss, what it means.
But to conclude from Cheddar Man's analyses that all Britons were dark-skinned during his time is a bit of a stretch for me at this point.
They are not saying that the Cheddar Man was a black African, no. I said in my initial post that the Cheddar Man was dark-skinned and not black. What I mean is that there is an agenda amongst some woke leftists to take the narrative and say that brown skin is more native to the British Isles or Europe than white skin is, and therefore no one has any right to claim that Europe is the homeland of white people or criticize the current migration flows and policies.
shareOh ok, then in a kind of way you provoked a little so that we come to an agreement. --> Cheddar Man is an amazing find, but not a proof. βΊ
Please correct me if I misunderstood something.
English isn't my first language, sorry.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d77a4aou5Vc
Get educated before speaking please.
Educate myself?
That video was embarrassing
Protective Mail boxes?
Tissue Holders?
Biscuit Cutters?
Never the actual 'refrigerator' nor the 'truck'...just the 'refrigerator-truck'...which in all actuality, would have likely been combined eventually anyhow?
As with all these (cough, cough) 'facts'...word salad is heavily employed...hence the very video YOU cited containing terms like:
"Inspired by"
"Leading to"
"Advancements in"
For a race that claims to have been here first, they haven't invented Jack shit...other than additions to pre-existing creations.
Dress it up any way you want (you're only lying to yourself)
BTW, the comments section to that video are hilarious...chock full of pious blacks parroting the same tired-old shit like "praise the Lord" and "We're such a great race"..Whilst spewing righteous indignation that the evil white oppressors kept the all-important (ahem!) 'Biscuit Cutter' from the history books (surely the greatest argument yet for 'reperations'?)
Speaking of said 'comments section'..Sure, there's the odd evil colonialiser dropping (those pesky) facts about the actual history of traffic lights...but worry not, those (racist) trivialities/facts are either deleted or down-voted enough to be at the very bottom of the comments section (so worry not)
Meanwhile, in Chicago...
It was embarrassing because it contradicted what you said. So in that regard I agree it was embarrassing for you. Folks like you are why I am glad I do not live in America. It seems to be turning into a cesspool of hatred and bigotry. People with your mouth and mindset are some of the most quiet basement dwelling incels in real life who are angry and live a miserable existence. You have to have power and be tough somewhere so by all means do it on here. Anyways I do not have time for human trash like yourself. As you were vagabond.
shareOf course you don't have 'time' for 'human trash' like me?
How convenient, eh?
Everytime I (or anyone else) brings up these uncomfortable truths...the response is the usual psychobabble 101...with the time-honoured I must be "a horrible person" or "live in a basement" or not have any friends and live a squalid existence.
Ha!
Your video contradicted *nothing* I said...Notice how I mentioned all these 'additions' long *before* you posted your (allegedly) 'educational' video.
Because you can't refute anything I've said...you then resort to (fictional, compensatory) personal attacks...which I don't mind...as It obviously deflects from the fact that you have no real opinion on anything.
I think, therefore YOU are.
Blacks have no real identity, history or culture... There's nothing inherently wrong with that...but the first step is admitting such.
But you can't.
Blacks can't even make up their minds on what, why, where or how, so instead hide behind conveniently un-documented history (in the vain hope that no-one will question such inaccuracies)
And when all else fails, break out your trusty 'race-card'
Instead, you're content to constantly flip-flop throughout history (cherry-picking events to add weight to your already non-existent 'Being')
Your narrative(s) are as follows:
#1 You're the first man (which then negates every other following narrative)
#2 You invented everything (despite even your own findings, proving otherwise?)
#3 You're existed in every country (long before said respective indigenous citizens)
#4 You were slaves (despite the fact that blacks sold their own into slavery...and still practice such to this very day)
Which one is to be?
Because (by-and-large) each narrative contradicts the other?
Looking forward to your inevitable reply, in which you further dole out more empty baseless insults...despite the facts being stacked in my favour)
P.S, I'm British (you couldn't even get that right)
https://youtu.be/D-Z-UiVzi7I?si=g8czOP6gDt4egVGi
P.P.S, I've made screenshots of this convo (given that butt-hurt sympathizers hit 'report' when the truth hurts) and will gladly repost, should this thread 'mysteriously' disappear?
Your non sequitur is noted as well as dismissed. The moment you said Blacks have no culture or history of their own is where I stopped reading. Do not bother responding you are now on ignore.
shareOh no...I'm ignored...I take back everything I said ...PLEASE DON'T IGNORE ME!!!
Or perhaps, instead of clutching for your (metaphorical) 'pearl necklace' of faux outrage, you could have enlightened me on black history and culture instead (and no...talking over music nor graffiti is culture btw)
But of course you can't even read this...but your online cowardice is duly noted (and for everyone else to see)
Just so black people are responsible for colonization and slavery?
No.
The end.
Just watched a great French docu, highly recommended.
Homo sapiens - The true Origin of Life
In June 2017, two publications in the prestigious journal "Nature" shocked science.
In Morocco researchers discovered the remains of five Homo sapiens individuals. They dated the bones to be about 315,000 years old - making the human species around 100,000 years older than previously thought.
With the help of virtual paleontology new information can be obtained from these fossils.
A skull was already found in the 1960s but was misinterpreted at the time.
The latest discoveries turn the current history of Homo sapiens on its head and make the Moroccan site of Jebel Irhoud the site of one of the greatest scientific adventures of the 21st century.
(ARTE-France 2020)
You can watch or download the docu in French or German (time limited!).
https://mediathekviewweb.de/#query=homo%20sapiens 86:10 mins
I remember my grandmother telling me "I dont care what they teach in school Mozart was a transexual, disabled, handicaped midget of color"
shareBut what colour was they/their's hair?
I can't tell from the 1814 etching.
DickusBiggus (173) a day ago
I remember my grandmother telling me "I dont care what they teach in school Mozart was a transexual, disabled, handicaped midget of color"
Your grandmother never said that, dear S. π§¦β share