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How Ronald Reagan's actions helped save the world!


The paradox inherent in democracy,” Donald Kagan has written, “is that it must create and depend on citizens who are free, autonomous, and self-reliant. Yet its success—its survival even—requires extraordinary leadership.” I was reminded of this judgment by Yale’s eminent historian as I noted the news report that President Bush had presented a Congressional Gold Medal to Ronald Reagan and Mrs. Reagan for their service to the country and, I would add, to the free world. And perhaps just as important an event: This past June marked the anniversary of Mr. Reagan’s Westminster speech, and the anniversary of his famous Berlin Wall address which led to it's dismantling.

In the Westminster address, he predicted that “the march of freedom and democracy [would] leave Marxism-Leninism on the ash heap of history,” and how right he was. It took extraordinary moral courage to make such a prophecy at a time when the Soviet Union was on the march, threatening Western Europe with intercontinental missiles. Still more to utter his historic words in Berlin: “Mr. Gorbachev, tear down this wall.”

More and more it becomes obvious, if not to the dominant school of American historians, that in terms of achievement Mr. Reagan was one of the country’s greatest presidents. Why? Because his momentous deeds were accomplished without war, without bloodshed. It is not to minimize the pantheonic stature of Abraham Lincoln to point out that his decision to save the Union cost millions of lives. The fall of the Berlin Wall and the fall of the Soviet empire, the outcome of the eight years of Mr. Reagan’s extraordinary leadership, saved the world from what might have been a nuclear war.

In fact, Mr. Reagan was one of the most successful U.S. politician-statesmen of the postwar era. An editorial in the distinctly nonconservative London Economist hailed Mr. Reagan in these words: “Judged strictly on his own terms, Ronald Reagan was a great president. He said he would reduce regulation; he did. He said that he would cut taxes; he did. He said that he would spend the Soviet Union into submission; he did. He was a successful president . . . because he knew who he was and what he believed in.”

Mr. Reagan fits perfectly a definition of what Sidney Hook called the “hero in history.” That phrase was the title of a book in which the philosopher dealt with the role of personality in history and the impact of that force on mankind: “The great man or woman in history is someone of whom we can say on the basis of the available evidence that if they had not lived when they did, or acted as they did, the history of their countries and of the world, to the extent that they are intertwined, would have been profoundly different. Their presence, in other words, must have made a substantial difference with respect to some event or movement deemed important by those who attribute historical greatness to them.”

Mr. Reagan, the Greatest Communicator, understood the realities of Soviet imperialism and acted accordingly. One can be certain that he would not have become an apologist for Fidel Castro’s dictatorship as Mr. Carter, with all his good intentions, has become.

In his view of history, Mr. Hook repudiated the notion that “no man or woman is indispensable.” There are moments in history, he argued, when “a particular person may very well be indispensable.” He defined two categories of heroes, the “eventful” individual and the “event-making” man or woman, the truly great figure in history. The eventful man is like the legendary Dutch boy who with his little finger stopped up the gap in the dike all night until aid could come. He saved the town by his deed, but any Dutch boy passing by could have done the same thing. “He was a hero by happenstance,” writes Mr. Hook.

“The event-making individual is someone who by extraordinary traits of character or intelligence or some other distinctive facet of personality has largely shaped the viable alternatives of action between which he chooses, alternatives that but for him would probably not have emerged,” Mr. Hook writes. “Such individuals are not made by events so much as events are made by them.”

There are freedom-loving democratic event-making heroes in history like Winston Churchill, Dwight Eisenhower, and Ronald Reagan, whose eight years in office trumped the end of the cold war forever!


Ronald Reagan is the GREATEST PRESIDENT IN HISTORY!

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It would appear that sfmar didn't get that memo that no one cares about what she thinks

Ronald Reagan is the GREATEST PRESIDENT IN HISTORY!

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A really great president

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https://www.datalounge.com/thread/27362164-how-the-reagans-fooled-america.-the-film-i-ve-been-waiting-for.-what-took-it-so-long-

[R270] Reagan was also a white supremacist (he even vetoed a new Civil Rights Bill) and habitual liar with terrible foreign policy. Plus, he was a homophobe, who ignored the AIDS crisis and repealed the Mental Health Systems Act, two things that caused people to suffer for decades after he left office.

Cracked, of all places, has a pretty good overview of some of the worst things Reagan did. Though they left off his repeal of the Fairness Doctrine, which led to the rise of Trump.


6 Ways You Didn't Realize Ronald Reagan Ruined The Country

https://www.cracked.com/blog/6-objective-reasons-ronald-reagan-was-our-worst-president/

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https://www.quora.com/Why-did-you-dislike-Ronald-Reagan/answer/Jon-Mixon-1

1. He didn’t do his job (HIV/AIDS)

2. He didn’t do his job (Iran-Contra)

3. He talked a big game and then couldn’t back it up

4. He was a racist

5. He knew that his health was satisfactory for him to do the job


References:

Ronald Reagan: No defence for 'monkeys' remark, says daughter
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-49207451

How Ronald Reagan’s Racism Helped Pave the Way for Donald Trump’s
https://www.esquire.com/entertainment/tv/a34733508/reagans-showtime-racism-matt-tyrnauer-ian-haney-lopez-donald-trump/

Reagan's Neshoba County Fair "states' rights" speech - Wikipedia
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reagan's_Neshoba_County_Fair_%22states'_rights%22_speech#References

SAMUEL R. PIERCE JR., EX-CABINET MEMBER
https://www.sun-sentinel.com/news/fl-xpm-2000-11-04-0011031030-story.html

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> 5. He knew that his health was satisfactory for him to do the job

Do you mean UNsatisfactory?

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> In the Westminster address, he predicted that “the march of freedom and democracy [would] leave Marxism-Leninism on the ash heap of history,” and how right he was.

Whatever that means ... the fact is that capitalism is not doing well. Specifically the corporation capitalism where the government is a small group of people form the corporate world told what to do by the corporations where the only democracy is between the citizens of the financial, corporate and oligarchical entities that the regular people rarely see or hear their goals, methods or conflicts.

When capitalism is unregulated by the people it turns into fascism more and more as it cuts those people out of the system and even eventually exploits, or disposes of them.

Marxism's rules and theories predict virtually all of this and they have worked where other models of economics fail. Mostly because economics in the political realm is just the elites picking out a theory that they like that supports their expansion of ownership and power, even when it is bad for everyone else and the environment. You should not knock Marxism, or Marx.

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> Ronald Reagan is the GREATEST PRESIDENT IN HISTORY!

Reagan was really the first President in history that had people working after his administration and his death to enshrine his myth as being a great President by echoing certain phrases through the right-wing media constantly. At the same time there was a concerted effort in the media to attack Rosevelt who saved Reagan and his parent's family from poverty when he was a kid.

"The Reagans" documentary is a well-balanced education on what really happened during the Reagan administration, with input from his detractors and input from his supporters too. It in terms of skill and drama Trump was a lot like Reagan and seems to have inventoried Reagan to duplicate his style as well as amping it up to the next level.

I've never though of any of our Post WWII Republican Presidents as being great, but Eisenhower would probably have been the closest. The Democrats that have been great have been those that changed the country towards an arc of justice, Roosevelt, Kennedy ( attempted to ), and Johnson. Since then most of the Democratic candidates have been corporate clones and basically Republicans, because the backers of Republicans dole out the money to both sides to make it appear like we have a two party system.

least-worst Republicans
-Eisenhower
-Ford
-H. W. Bush
-Nixon
-W. Bush
-Reagan
-Trump
most-worst Republicans

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The QAnon boards were slow tonight, so we got the overflow...

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Yikes. You know your presidency sucks when you have to falsely credit a senile moron for something he didn't even do - cause the demise of the big bag boogie monster Soviets. He was just another shithead boomer who sold out the country to worthless immigrants, so him and his buddies can make a profit from them at the expense of AMERICANS, while using their tax money to bankrupt their futures.

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He wasn't a Baby Boomer, Millennial Moron.

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I literally read nothing here that supported "GREATEST PRESIDENT IN HISTORY!"

even if not crippled by US sanctions, the US stood up against Cuba, a weak island nation of 11 million......... wow.... how stunning and brave.

as for the broader USSR.. it was collapsing and had zero to do with Reagan. despite the Star Wars nonsense. this is all you need to know about its collapse. https://www.macrotrends.net/1369/crude-oil-price-history-chart

well this and why communist Russias economy was soooooo inefficient. which ill briefly summarize as the most inefficient, poor preforming and failing sectors received the most money to meet quotas. while the best received the least.

point is oil prices skyrocketing allowed the USSR to keep funding their system, no matter how crappy it was. once prices dropped again the system collapsed shortly after

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