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Most overrated director in history?


Yes Pulp Fiction was good. But only because of the actors, not the script or direction. As for his other films the vast majority are junk. The nail on the coffin for me was Once Upon a Time in Hollywood. How he could turnan important subject into something so poor is beyond me. I mean really: watching the two idiots Brad and Leonardo pretending to act is excruciating. And the taking of a true story and making it fake news some may like. I'm proud to say I'm not one of them!

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I couldn't concur more. "OUATIH" didn't have anything to say. It was just a vehicle to show off all the props that Tarantino could find from 1969. Pitt was a plank of wood and DiCaprio sounded like a second-rate Elvis impersonator. It made me sick to hear all the sci-fi fans fantasizing of how awesome a Quentin Tarantino "Star Trek" movie will be. Glad it's no more. All his movies since "Pulp Fiction" are lampoons of other genres.

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Once Upon a Time in Hollywood certainly did say a lot. Go visit it’s forum here and read some of the threads and see what you think. Be open to some of the ideas and they might change your mind a little.

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No. OUATIH will always be a shit movie no matter how other people interpret it, and you needing other people's opinions to form your own says a lot about you.

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I’m saying to look at what others here have already written because I agree with many of their assessments, and I won’t need to type it all again.

A quick look at your post history tells us all we need to know about you.

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You only have 30 posts, but I already like you.

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I like Spielberg but your statement refers to him.
QT is overrated though. No doubt.

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way up there

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Nah. He is legitimately a great director and most of his films are excellent.

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i don't like his revenge flicks much (basically his last 3-4 movies before Once Upon a Time)... pulp fiction and resevoir dogs were good...

Jackie Brown was not bad, but suffers a bit from the woody allen effect... all characters sound like tarantino talking to himself... once you see and hear this it is impossible to unsee/hear...

Once Upon a Time in Hollywood was good (not amazing, but not bad at all)... He obviously wasn't going to do the material and event justice... And he was going to screw with the ending/history... But it wasn't the trainwreck that I imagined... I almost wished it didn't involve Sharon Tate at all...

His western movie, hateful eight, sucked big time... and I found inglorious basterds and django middling... although inglorious did have a few very good scenes...

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I would say he is overrated, but mostly due to his 2000s and 2010s output, which is mostly mediocre, over praised fluff.

However his 90s work, from Reservoir Dogs, Pulp Fiction, and Jackie Brown, are worthy of cementing his status. Maybe Reservoir Dogs less so because it’s basically a remake of “City of Fire” with Chow Yun Fat, but otherwise he really was at the top of his game in that decade.

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Oscar isn't much respected anymore -- except IN Hollywood where it matters.

QT's done OK there:

Wins:

Pulp Fiction(screenplay)
Django Unchained(screenplay)

Chris Waltz(Supporting Actor, Inglorious Basterds)
Chris Waltz (Supporting Actor, Django Unchained)
Brad Pitt (Once Upon a Time in Hollywood)

Best Score

Ennio Morricone, The Hateful Eight

Nominations:

Best Picture:

Pulp Fiction
Inglorious Basterds
Django Unchained
Once Upon a Time in Hollywood

Best Director

Pulp Fiction
Inglorious Basterds
Django Unchained
Once Upon a Time in Hollywood

Best Screenplay

Inglorious Basterds
The Hateful Eight

Best Actor

John Travolta Pulp Fiction

Best Supporting Actor

Samuel L. Jackson, Pulp Fiction
Robert Forster, Jackie Brown

Best Supporting Actress

Jennifer Jason Leigh , The Hateful Eight

Best Cinematography (Robert Richardson)

Inglorious Basterds
Django Unchained
The Hateful Eight
Once Upon a Time in Hollywood

....and more?

Every studio wants to work with Tarantino, every actor wants to work with Tarantino(though sometimes they've turned him down on the roles offered -- Tom Cruise, J-Law.)

And the weird thing is, when he's not making Oscar-consideration movies, he's making pulp cult indies that earn him "bad boy rebel" status -- Reservoir Dogs, Kill Bill(s), Death Proof or writing them (True Romance, From Dusk Til Dawn).

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If you are referring to Tom Cruse playing a part in Once Upon a Time in Hollywood, I’m pretty sure he was never offered a part. If you know of something different, please link to it because I would be interested in reading about it.

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I thought about that as I posted it and would indicate that I should have said "reportedly" or something because it goes like this:

When Tarantino announced Once Upon a Time in Hollywood(before it had that title, or any title), with only vague information that it was about the Manson murders...QT(or somebody) put out word in the press that "Tom Cruise, Brad Pitt and Leo DiCaprio were being considered for the cast." I'm pretty sure links can be found to articles of that nature in 2018 and maybe 2019.

In retrospect, that was a dangerous announcement because it turned out there were only "two roles for three candidates." I don't know if an offer was made or not, but Cruise was "in talks" and it seems to me that he had a shot at the role, but either declined it or QT decided in favor of Brad Pitt.

So...you got me, but I put Tom Cruise in there because I know he was announced as 'in talks." Rather than fight...I'll apologize.

With Jennifer Lawrence, there was both talk and in some cases, photographs of QT meeting J-Law for lunch(photos of them walking outside the restaurant) and the rumors were that while she wanted to work with QT on SOMETHING, the two roles offered didn't cut it.

One was Daisy Domergue in The Hateful Eight. The main (almost ONLY) female lead in an otherwise almost all-male tale, we know that the role involved a lot of violence, blood, and gore rained upon Daisy; J-Law evidently didn't want to go there.

The other, I believe, was Squeaky Fromme in Once Upon a Time in Hollywood. Evidently, J-Law and QT were trying again to work together, but Margot Robbie already had(or was first choice for) the Sharon Tate part, which was bigger but(as the movie proved) had less dialogue than Squeaky (ultimately played by Dakota Fanning.)

I have no readily available links for any of this, but I read these things -- saw the photos of J-Law and QT after lunch -- and they make sense.

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Roger-that! 😀

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NO

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