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Any Londoners here or people familiar with London ?


I heard a rumour that the Cockney accent is dying out ( along with the Cockneys I guess ) is this true ?

Also what sort of an accent does this girl ( from London I think ) have ? She often doesn't pronounce her t's, drops the ing sound which becomes just in' and drops her aitches as well and can pronounce her l's as w's. And just sometimes some of her vowels sound Australian to me.

https://www.youtube.com/c/thefairyvoicemother


Edit: I was watching another one of her videos where she called herself a Cockney so that answers that question. And it means that some of her vowels don't sound like Australian vowels because it's the other way around. Some Australian vowel sounds originally came from the Cockneys.



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I think all London accents are dying out. The majority of the city wasn't born in the country.

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So you think it's a case of Lon-and-done !

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John Cleese feels the same way.

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I think the Brooklyn accent is dying as well.

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Oy vey !

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Youse people don't know that is Yiddish, not (necessarily) Brooklyn?

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Shoo-wuh !

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When you combine Jewish and Brooklyn: The great Linda Richman
https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=linda+richman

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What was Archie Bunker's wife Edith's accent ? I always thought of her as being from Brooklyn for some reason.

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It takes pace in Queens so maybe they were attempting a Queens accent, which I am not familiar with. People generally lump the Brooklyn accent with all New York City accents. Mel Blanc once said Bugs Bunny was a combination of Brooklyn and Bronx. I came across a rather different one in the Rockaway Beach area. It is technically Queens, and I found the accent to be a sort of combination of Brooklyn and Long Island.

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So complicated. Australia hasn't had the time to develop much variation in accents yet despite the distances involved.

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People occasionally detect my NY accent, but mostly no, which I attribute to two things: Neither of my parents were native NY'er's, moving there in their md 20s. and two, starting in 6th grade going to private school.

Here in Reno I encountered a NY'er who was bartending at the place I was eating. He had a real NY accent, but not a Brooklyn accent, and indeed, he said he grew up in Hells Kitchen area. I can sort of do a Brooklyn accent, but have trouble duplicating his accent. It was sort of like what Martin Short describes here -- "that flat NY thing" and notice it isn't really a Brooklyn sounding thing.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y45F3McmqWM&t=50s

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Central London is pretty multicultural, you don't hear many British / English accents never mind Cockney, which is only spoken by a small minority today. MLE is probably becoming the prevalent accent amongst younger Londoners, in which you'll hear things like "innit" "ting" "d'ya get me bruv". I found this excellent explanation on metafilter.com;

"A new London accent strikingly different from Cockney has emerged in the last few years. Linguists call it "Multicultural London English" (or MLE) and although it has obvious roots in the London black community it's now displacing Cockney to become a universal accent for working class London youth, regardless of race. Change is spreading so fast that London teens often have radically different accents from their own parents."

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Sad news ! But there is still the London accent that Daisy Ridley has for instance ( not her posh Rey accent but her everyday accent ) isn't there ?

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The cockney accent has survived, most notably by Americans trying to do the Australian accent and failing. 😂

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To me she has a hybrid accent, I wouldn´t call her accent pure cockney. I can hear some Australianisms too. If its cockney its mild, I´d consider someone like Naveen Andrews or Adewale Akinnuoye-Agbaje as having a proper Cockney accent.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XIL-6L25aZE

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Yes some of her vowel sounds are just like the Australian ones. I have read that the Cockney accent was one of the main contributors to the Australian accent after the settlement of Australia.

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Yeah I´ve heard the same, we use a lot of idioms that derive from Cockney rhyming slang too.

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