Police enter man's home over social media posts...
https://twitter.com/OliLondonTV/status/1781257648114909652
Isn't this what usually happens in a fascists dictatorship? UK is a Police State...Let's face it.
I'm so glad we have the 4th Amendement here in the US. Fuck the Police, ACAB(Except the cop that murdered Ashly Babbit obv amidoingitrite)!!
Her name is spelled Ashli you incompetent moron. You really should spell the name of your martyr correctly or you look more stupid than usual. Besides, Ashli Babbitt was a traitor who attempted to break into a secure area where deadly force was authorized. She got what she deserved. It worked too. No other of Trump's band of barking seals attempted to break into that area.
shareHer protest was "mostly peaceful". And she was unarmed. And she was a different race than the cop. And she was a woman.
Normally you leftards would consider these factors to be a reason to whine like a fag.
But now we see that all your past whining was not serious. It was just shit talk, used as a weapon against your enemies.
When the "shoe is on the other foot" all these issues that you pretended to care about so much before, suddenly became irrelevant to you.
Also, the topic is how you lefties are against human rights, specifically FREEDOM OF SPEECH, as demonstrated by the police harrassing a man for his speech.
I've seen numbers that more people get arrested for speech violations in the UK than in russia.
>I've seen numbers that more people get arrested for speech violations in the UK than in russia.
Promoted by Russian sources, by the way. And Russia doesn't disclose their own data here.
Russia has no independent media. Russia bans expressions of separatism. Russia has enforced and applied blasphemy laws. Russia bans all "LGBT propaganda". Russia bans insulting public officials. Russia has shut down and arrested or forced into exile, at this point, literally all independent opposition.
This particular video is pretty bad, and I'm trying to find an article about it to get some more context.
LOL. No, not promoted by russian sources.
shareName your sources then please.
And are you meaning to imply here that you think there are more civil liberties in Russia than the UK? Are you being remotely morally serious when you make that claim?
I said what I said. I address one specific aspect of oppression.
Pointing out that the UK is worse than russia on ONE type of speech, is pointing out that the UK is worse than russian, on ONE type of speech.
You ask if I was claiming that "there are more civil liberties in Russia than the uk"?
Did I say anything like that? Hint the answer rhymes with "NO YOU FUCKING MORON".
But not only did you ask that question, you then assumed the answer you wanted and attacked me as not being "morally serious".
On topic, it is pretty shitty that a nation with a history of advancing human rights like the UK, today is going in the opposite direction and, in at least one regard, has worse numbers than RUSSIA.
>Pointing out that the UK is worse than russia on ONE type of speech, is pointing out that the UK is worse than russian, on ONE type of speech.
We don't have the comparative data for the rate of arrests for social media in Russia. A detail.
>But not only did you ask that question, you then assumed the answer you wanted and attacked me as not being "morally serious".
I don't think you're morally serious on anything. I think you're a piece of shit. I will never stop reminding you of this.
>On topic, it is pretty shitty that a nation with a history of advancing human rights like the UK, today is going in the opposite direction and, in at least one regard, has worse numbers than RUSSIA.
We don't have data from Russia on this.
It's also rich for you to claim anything about freedom of speech when you're on record for wanting me shut down by force.
You piece of shit hypocrite.
If you have anything to SAY, i would support your right to SAY it.
But you are just here to SUPPRESS speech by shutting down real discussion, ,with inane and retarded troll boi tactics.
So, go fuck yourself.
>If you have anything to SAY, i would support your right to SAY it.
No, you've said I should be stopped by force.
>But you are just here to SUPPRESS speech by shutting down real discussion, ,with inane and retarded troll boi tactics.
How is responding to people "suppressing" speech and shutting down discussion? Are you that much of a beta bitch that you can't handle dissent and characterise it as "suppressing"? You continue to demonstrate a cult-like scientology attitude.
You are a little fascist hypocrite. You don't give a fuck about civil liberties.
1. The way you split my point and addressed the first part of it, asking me a qeustion, that was answered in the second, is you being an asshole with nothing real to say. Go fuck yourself.
2. Because all you are doing is purposefully burying real discussion under meaningless troll boi games. As I just said. Go fuck yourself.
3. The bit where you ask a question I JUST answered, is you giving a fine example of a. how you are not saying anything, and b. how you are a complete asshole. Go fuck yourself.
1. It doesn't matter what you think I'm doing. Free speech is for everyone, not just for people who you think are making decent points. Whether or not I am a "troll boi" should not come into it. Yet you've called for me to be stopped by force anyway. Do you deny this?
2. This is an open forum. You can respond to who you like. Other people can respond to who they like. You really are a pathetic little bitch if my presence is enough for you to think that I'm somehow "shutting down" discussion.
And I'll do whatever the fuck I like, and without your permission. I know how much you hate civil liberties, but I can do what I want and I don't answer to you.
3. I'll make it as easy as I can for you: Should I have the right to post on the internet? In your ideal world, would I be shut down?
Look at what you did here. A member posted an article about a serious violation of free speech in a major western country.
YOU, entered the thread and shut it down.
That is you suppressing speech. Good Job.
If your goal is to support the loss of Freedom of Speech in western nations.
>Look at what you did here. A member posted an article about a serious violation of free speech in a major western country.
>YOU, entered the thread and shut it down.
The thread is still active, genius. Nothing stops other people from engaging.
>If your goal is to support the loss of Freedom of Speech in western nations.
Answer my question: Should I have the right to post on the internet? In your ideal world, would I be shut down?
The thread is "active"?
Let's check back tomorrow and see how much discussion on teh TOPIC is going on, after your input.
>The thread is "active"?
Neither you nor me stops someone from posting their thoughts.
>Let's check back tomorrow and see how much discussion on teh TOPIC is going on, after your input.
How would my input chastising you in a specific comment chain stop other people from opining on the thread topic?
And I will ask AGAIN: Should I have the right to post on the internet? In your ideal world, would I be shut down?
1. If that is true, then when we check the thread tomorrow, there will be an active discussion of the topic. If it is not true, that you will have suppressed speech.
2. I don't know that right answer. We as a society do need an answer to your type of behavior though. Letting people like you dominate the new Public Square, is clearly not sustainable. You are very unhealthy for US.
1. Even if it dies, it wouldn't prove your point at all. I've made many threads hijacked by people like you that got no attention beyond you coming in and complaining. That didn't shut the thread down. People just chose not to interject. This is a single comment chain and people are free to respond separately. That you and I are going at it about an adjacent issue has nothing to do with anything.
2. What is "my type of behaviour"? "Trolling"? How do you objectively quantify trolling?
You unironically sound like a fucking fascist dude. You speak of freedom of expression yet you suggest I should be shut down by force. You are a fucking hypocrite.
Should it be legal for people to assault me?
shareincompetent moron
Her name is spelled Ashli you incompetent moron. You really should spell the name of your martyr correctly or you look more stupid than usual. Besides, Ashli Babbitt was a traitor who attempted to break into a secure area where deadly force was authorized. She got what she deserved. It worked too. No other of Trump's band of barking seals attempted to break into that area.
Why didn't you comment on my post? It looks like I triggered you yet again. Here's some more tissue.
See, these liberal fuckwits think it's cool to shoot people they don't like. They don't care about anything but their twisted agenda.
shareDid you know police in the UK can decide whether they want to carry a gun or not? Can you imagine? Some police actually choose to not carry a gun.
"honey, I'll see you tonight. I'm going to go out and potentially fight murderers, thieves and gang members without a gun. Oh but I do have this nice stick to swing at people"
LOL at the fricking british.
>Did you know police in the UK can decide whether they want to carry a gun or not? Can you imagine? Some police actually choose to not carry a gun.
No, that's not true. It depends on the level of training and role the police officer has in the UK.
As I understood it the man was grassed by his Orthodox priest, who should be defrocked if that was the case. I expect more from Orthodox clergy.
But clearly the bigger issue here is the state acting as arbiters of what British subjects are allowed to say and, more especially, thing. Can anyone find a similar incident of the Old Bill rocking up to an imam's home and implying he's insane for believing in the supremacy of his faith? Or is this just another example of anti-nativist, anti-white discrimination by the civil authorities in the formerly great Britain?
I don't think you're in any position to lecture people about civil liberties when it seems you want to use the state to force LGBT people back into the closet.
Hypocrite.
"Seems"? And here I thought you were this honorable opponent who valued sourced facts above all else.
shareYou are welcome to answer me about how you think LGBT people should be "back in the closet".
And I'll withdraw my accusation depending on what you say that should actually entail.
Didn't you recently go on a lengthy whinge about having your views potentially misrepresented?
shareI am giving you the opportunity to correct my presumptions.
shareSince I'm not bothered by them in the first place, I really can't be arsed.
shareThen I will carry on under the assumption that you wish to use the state as heavies to persecute LGBT people and prevent them from expressing themselves.
shareThat's basically what your fascist country is doing to non-LGBT people.
It doesn’t get more hypocritical than that.
>That's basically what your fascist country is doing to non-LGBT people.
No, it's not. People are not persecuted for being straight in public.
I didn't say 'for being straight', lol. This post is an example of how they are being persecuted.
Every year, numerous straight people in the UK are persecuted for expressing online free speech.
The opposite of what is occurring in Russia, but instead of the rainbow cult, it's the straight or non-rainbow people.
>I didn't say 'for been straight', lol. This post is an example of how they are been persecuted.
No, you didn't - but that would be the relevant comparison. I am accusing maixiu of wanting to enact into law Russian-style LGBT "propaganda" laws that criminalise LGBT people from being publicly LGBT in any fashion. If the UK was persecuting "non-LGBT people" they would have to be doing the reverse.
>Every year, numerous straight people in the UK are persecuted for expressing online free speech.
They aren't cautioned or charged because they're straight. Gay people could say the things they say and get the same outcome. Not justifying it, but your framing of the situation is just not correct.
>The opposite of what is occurring in Russia, but instead of the rainbow cult, it's the straight or non-rainbow people.
No, it's not. The opposite of Russia would be to pass a "Straight propaganda law" which would ban straight people from expressing themselves in any capacity in public.
The opposite of Russia would be to pass a "Straight propaganda law"
>Every year hundreds/thousands are fined, arrested, charged and some are even jailed in the UK over online speech and almost all are non-rainbow people, so it's actually even worse than Russia in both practice and by ratio.
Because most people are "non-rainbow people". They aren't fined, arrested and charged for anything to do with their sexuality. It's mostly people being charged for racism.
And are you being remotely serious here in alleging that Russia has more civil liberties than the UK? Do you even have the data of Russian arrests?
They aren't fined, arrested and charged for anything to do with their sexuality.
>I didn't say anything about 'sexuality', I was clear that the reason was for 'online speech' and/or related.
Correct. So it's not remotely comparable to Russias laws on LGBT propaganda.
>And yes, in comparison, the UK is worse than Russia since according to you, it can apply to both the straight-group and rainbow-group. Not to mention, the much higher numbers.
You know nothing about Russia. Name me some independent media out of Russia that is openly critical of the Kremlin? Oh wait, you can't, because Russia has banned all anti-Kremlin media outlets. Name me some journalists, politicians, activists and dissidents that speak against Putin and his party that operate within Russia publicly.
Russia bans any and all expressions of separatism. Russia bans "LGBT propaganda". Russia bans "LGBT extremism". Russia bans insulting politicians. Russia has blasphemy laws on the books. Russia bans criticising the "special military operation". Russia has widespread internet censorship the like that no western country has.
You know how you dislike the attempts to remove Trump from state ballots? In Russia, that is completely normal in presidential elections. Potential popular candidates just have their candidacies flat-out denied.
https://www.rferl.org/a/russia-nadezhdin-appeal-election-rejected/32821051.html
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_journalists_killed_in_Russia
Go read the Wikipedia article on the amount of journalists who wound up shot, poisoned, launched out of windows etc.
This isn't even speaking of special cases like Chechnya.
Listen to how Russia works specifically from an actual Russian who went into self-exile after the Ukrainian invasion:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vVvmeKUyIvo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hXTUnYiOME0&t=45s
I can be anti the UK government publicly, and openly in the UK. Nothing happens to me.
Can I do that in Russia?
95% of the thousands persecuted in the UK every year are against the ‘straight group’ which is far more than your list of political dissenters in Russia that were deemed traitors to an oligarchy.
So yes, it’s worse in the UK. Of course you disagree since you are a brainwashed Brit that simps for the degenerate rainbow cult.
>95% of the thousands persecuted in the UK every year are against the ‘straight group’
Because 95% of people happen to be straight. And they aren't charged for saying anything about LGBT people (or very mostly not). Most public incidents in the UK relating to this are about racism.
>which is far more than your list of political dissenters in Russia that were deemed traitors to an oligarchy.
You think that's remotely a complete list?
What can I do in Russia that I cannot do publicly in the UK?
>So yes, it’s worse in the UK. Of course you disagree since you are a brainwashed Brit that simps for the degenerate rainbow cult.
Name me some independent media out of Russia that is openly critical of the Kremlin? Oh wait, you can't, because Russia has banned all anti-Kremlin media outlets. Name me some journalists, politicians, activists and dissidents that speak against Putin and his party that operate within Russia publicly.
Russia bans any and all expressions of separatism. Russia bans "LGBT propaganda". Russia bans "LGBT extremism". Russia bans insulting politicians. Russia has blasphemy laws on the books. Russia bans criticising the "special military operation". Russia has widespread internet censorship the like that no western country has.
You know how you dislike the attempts to remove Trump from state ballots? In Russia, that is completely normal in presidential elections. Potential popular candidates just have their candidacies flat-out denied.
https://www.rferl.org/a/russia-nadezhdin-appeal-election-rejected/32821051.html
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_journalists_killed_in_Russia
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Russian_assassinations
Go read the Wikipedia article on the amount of journalists who wound up shot, poisoned, launched out of windows etc.
This isn't even speaking of special cases like Chechnya.
Listen to how Russia works specifically from an actual Russian who went into self-exile after the Ukrainian invasion:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vVvmeKUyIvo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hXTUnYiOME0&t=45s
So no true free speech in the UK for any groups, yeap, definitely worse than in Russia.
And yes, your Russian list is small compared to the thousands fined/arrested each year in the UK.
To confirm that you're a pedo bot, regurgitate your previous replies.
>So no true free speech in the UK for any groups, yeap, definitely worse than in Russia.
I didn't say that the UK had "true free speech". Almost nowhere does. But the UK has way more free speech than Russia.
But it has way more free speech than Russia.
Russia bans any and all expressions of separatism. Russia bans "LGBT propaganda". Russia bans "LGBT extremism". Russia bans insulting politicians. Russia has blasphemy laws on the books. Russia bans criticising the "special military operation". Russia has widespread internet censorship the like that no western country has.
All of those things are illegal for everyone in Russia. What can I do in Russia that I cannot do in the UK?
>And yes, your Russian list is small compared to the thousands fined/arrested each year in the UK.
Do you think there's an equivalence between being murdered by the state and fined by local police for being rude online? And do you think those wikipedia sources outline all of what goes on in Russia?
Name me some independent media out of Russia that is openly critical of the Kremlin? Oh wait, you can't, because Russia has banned all anti-Kremlin media outlets. Name me some journalists, politicians, activists and dissidents that speak against Putin and his party that operate within Russia publicly.
You know how you dislike the attempts to remove Trump from state ballots? In Russia, that is completely normal in presidential elections. Potential popular candidates just have their candidacies flat-out denied.
>To confirm that you're a pedo bot, regurgitate your previous replies.
Are you that much of a childish drone that you have to copy the cowardly behaviour of someone else?
Are you that much of a braindead simpleton that you can't respond adequately to my points that you have to hurl baseless allegations?
You are a vile, nasty hateful scumbag. You have absolutely no morals whatsoever.
Why hasn't the Uk arrested, say, Nigel Farage and shut down Reform UK?
shareAs you wish. I mentioned this in response to a an accusation that I'm a racist, but your morality is clearly not mine. Hence, I'm not bothered by your complaints that I don't adhere to the tenets of your religion, anymore than I would be if a Jew or Moslem had a go at me for not eating kosher or halal
shareWho called you a racist?
I don't expect you to subscribe to any tenets of my "religion".
A different poster. I didn't mean to imply it was you.
shareOkay then.
Anyway, I don't expect you to subscribe to anything. I actually don't care what people think of LGBT people. Just leave them alone.
In other words, you expect me to subscribe to the idea of leaving them alone.
...Is that a problem to you?
Do you expect me to subscribe to the idea of leaving Christians alone? I assume you do. Is that unreasonable?
We ask would-be murderers to leave people alone. I'm for civil liberties.
You said you don't expect me to subscribe to anything, but very quickly threw in the caveat that I was expected to "leave them alone". How do you reconcile such a contradiction in terms?
Civil liberties? It sounds more like you're a libertarian.
By "leave them alone" I mean specifically respect their rights to be LGBT in public, as you would expected to be allowed to be a christian in public (I assume you're a christian, I can't remember). Churches can exist, Gay clubs can exist. LGBT people can hold hands in public, and christians may evangelise and wear crosses in public. TV shows and films can base their themes and story on christianity, and so can there be LGBT characters in TV shows and films.
Do you object to this?
I suppose I expect everyone to respect other people's rights. Is that a bad thing?
>Civil liberties? It sounds more like you're a libertarian.
Socially, absolutely.
So Christianity is no different than the Rainbow Cult? That sort of preposterous thinking is where we get absurdities like, "a rat is a pig is a dog is a boy."
The idea that judgments ought to be forbidden to humans is a cancer eating away at Western civilization and you're part of that sickness.
>So Christianity is no different than the Rainbow Cult?
It's not a question of value or difference, but rights. Christians should not be persecuted. Gay men should not be persecuted. Communists should not be persecuted. Goths should not be persecuted.
Is this objectionable to you, for some reason?
>The idea that judgments ought to be forbidden to humans is a cancer eating away at Western civilization and you're part of that sickness.
When did I say you can't judge anything?
It’s an old devil trick that weaponizes tolerance and empathy to disguise evil as good.
shareWhat are you on about? This is about civil liberties. People should have the right to live their lives, and respect the rights of others to live their lives.
I respect your right to be a christian. It doesn't harm me. Perhaps I dislike christianity, perhaps I don't. It's irrelevant. Your life is not my life. My life is not your life. So it goes with homosexuality, or Islam, or someone's political expression, or their cultural background, or their subcultural interests.
Is it the Devil who won't let you show your evidence that the 2020 election was rigged?
shareWatch UK Police literally make up charges on the spot to an auditor...
This is what actual fascism is like...
https://youtu.be/MOtxUDSjPpY?si=nPcrutI-NnzxJGEP
Dude, Auditors are the UKs equivalent of sovereign citizens who spend their time harassing policemen and other public workers purely to entice reactions.
You really are scraping the bottom of the barrel.
They can be, but there are many more who do a great service to their countrymen by standing athwart the steady erosion of those civil rights that you sometimes claim to be so enamored of.
I go both ways with AB. He sometimes gets himself far too wound up and can be petty and confrontational. But there's no doubt he's out there, risking arrest, in an effort to keep police from overstepping their bounds. I bless him for trying to preserve the balance between state and individual.
If you want to watch a British-based auditor that is on the top of the rankings, on either side of the pond, it's Focus Pocus. Unflappable, sublimely clever, well-versed in current laws, and never looks for a confrontation. Yet, these petty tyrants, PCSO's, constables, etc., continually attempt to impede him from lawful activities. He's risking his neck so that pansies like you don't become complete servants of the ruling class. You should thank him and others.
By putting cameras in the faces of police and professional workers, and asking them obnoxious questions? These dudes usually get moved on for harassment. Nothing more. I am not wasting hours and hours of time watching unbelievably boring videos from some dude in a camera following around policemen and security guards. It's beyond pathetic.
And again, I don't really think you are in any position to cheerlead for the distinction between the state and the individual given your unstated, and somewhat unclear attitude regarding LGBT rights.
You're like a child who insists he hates a particular dish despite never having eaten it before.
shareI've seen auditing videos before. All of them had an insufferable grifter behind the camera trying to goad a police response for petty harassment or trespassing. They were also all remarkably very long and boring. Watching someone pester random members of the public whilst they try to ignore them is not exactly riveting viewing.
And again, I don't really think you are in any position to cheerlead for the distinction between the state and the individual given your unstated, and somewhat unclear attitude regarding LGBT rights.
*bawk* pretty bird...Gay rights... *bawk*
shareIf you refuse to address my points and answer my questions, I will simply repeat myself:
I've seen auditing videos before. All of them had an insufferable grifter behind the camera trying to goad a police response for petty harassment or trespassing. They were also all remarkably very long and boring. Watching someone pester random members of the public whilst they try to ignore them is not exactly riveting viewing.
And again, I don't really think you are in any position to cheerlead for the distinction between the state and the individual given your unstated, and somewhat unclear attitude regarding LGBT rights.
spend their time harassing policemen and other public workers purely to entice reactions.
>That’s the same thing that the rainbow cult is doing to everyone else, but our LEOs are not knocking down their doors or hauling them off to jail. It’s absolute fascism and differential enforcement.
Show me some examples of the "rainbow cult" doing this.
>The UK is worse than Russia.
No, it is not.
Russia bans any and all expressions of separatism. Russia bans "LGBT propaganda". Russia bans "LGBT extremism". Russia bans insulting politicians. Russia has blasphemy laws on the books. Russia bans criticising the "special military operation" or "discrediting the military". Russia has widespread internet censorship the like that no western country has.
All of those things are illegal for everyone in Russia. What can I do in Russia that I cannot do in the UK?
Name me some independent media out of Russia that is openly critical of the Kremlin? Oh wait, you can't, because Russia has banned all anti-Kremlin media outlets. Name me some journalists, politicians, activists and dissidents that speak against Putin and his party that operate within Russia publicly.
You know how you dislike the attempts to remove Trump from state ballots? In Russia, that is completely normal in presidential elections. Potential popular candidates just have their candidacies flat-out denied.
https://www.rferl.org/a/russia-nadezhdin-appeal-election-rejected/32821051.html
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_journalists_killed_in_Russia
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Russian_assassinations
Go read the Wikipedia article on the amount of journalists who wound up shot, poisoned, launched out of windows etc.
This isn't even speaking of special cases like Chechnya.
Listen to how Russia works specifically from an actual Russian who went into self-exile after the Ukrainian invasion:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vVvmeKUyIvo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hXTUnYiOME0&t=45s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Bb6S-JBxKY (Russians arrested for street interviews)
Political dissenters deemed traitors. They knew better.
Btw, that's a tiny fraction. The UK arrests, charges, fines and jails "thousands" each year.
Pasting that wall over and over doesn't change the facts. This is why you deserve edited replies.
>Political dissenters deemed traitors. They knew better.
So it's acceptable to arrest "political dissenters", is it? What were they doing that was "political dissent"?
Are you not a political dissenter right now in the USA? Do you "know better"? Should you be arrested?
>Btw, that's a tiny fraction. The UK arrests, charges, fines and jails "thousands" each year.
How do you know it's a "tiny fraction"?
Also: Do you think there's an equivalence between being murdered by the state and fined by local police for being rude online? And do you think those wikipedia sources outline all of what goes on in Russia? Russia kills its opposition. It forces them into exile.
Name me some British public figures being forced into exile or arrested. Why hasn't Reform UK been shut down? Why hasn't Nigel Farage been arrested? Why hasn't all anti-government opposition media been shut down?
>Pasting that wall over and over doesn't change the facts. This is why you deserve edited replies.
Why don't you fucking answer the points in the wall of test. Answer these questions, fuckface:
Russia bans any and all expressions of separatism. Russia bans "LGBT propaganda". Russia bans "LGBT extremism". Russia bans insulting politicians. Russia has blasphemy laws on the books. Russia bans criticising the "special military operation" or "discrediting the military". Russia has widespread internet censorship the like that no western country has.
All of those things are illegal for everyone in Russia. What can I do in Russia that I cannot do in the UK?
Name me some independent media out of Russia that is openly critical of the Kremlin? Oh wait, you can't, because Russia has banned all anti-Kremlin media outlets. Name me some journalists, politicians, activists and dissidents that speak against Putin and his party that operate within Russia publicly.
>Pasting that wall over and over doesn't change the facts. This is why you deserve edited replies.
You refuse to answer the many questions within that wall of text:
Such as: What can I do in Russia that I cannot do in the UK?
And: Name me some independent media out of Russia that is openly critical of the Kremlin?
Any comments on the Youtuber NFKRZ that I linked out about Russian free speech?
>The USA should never have allowed the degenerate cult with so many privileges that has demoralized and destroyed our culture.
What "privileges" from LGBT people should be removed by the USA? Name them.
>It’s time for them to go back in the closet and be grateful that they are not in Russia or a country where being gay is punishable by death.
What does it mean for them to have go "back in the closet" in terms of law?
Hundreds in the USA have been arrested and persecuted for political dissent.
A tiny fraction based on your own sources compared to thousands each year in the UK.
Those are mostly journalists/politicians in Russia. I’m referring to UK citizens.
Russia bans any and all expressions of separatism. Russia bans "LGBT propaganda". Russia bans "LGBT extremism".
>Hundreds in the USA have been arrested and persecuted for political dissent.
Name them.
>A tiny fraction based on your own sources compared to thousands each year in the UK.
Do you think the wikipedia article I provide accounts for all examples from Russia?
>Good. They should be grateful that they’re not sentenced to years in prison on their first offense or exiled from the country or punished to death.
So do you think Texan separatists, Alaskan separatists and Californian separatists (as the three largest examples I think of) should be arrested? Should the Texan GOP be arrested for stoking separatism sentiment?
https://www.houstonchronicle.com/business/columnists/tomlinson/article/texas-border-crisis-republicans-secession-18596321.php
I thought you supported free speech, or are you again showing how much of a fascist piece of shit hypocrite you are?
Why should "LGBT propaganda" or "LGBT extremism" be banned? Define what those terms mean.
>“Russia, which enacted an anti-“gay propaganda” law in 2013 prohibiting any positive mention of homosexuality in the presence of minors, including online. In 2022. Russia extended that prohibition to cover all positive mentions of same-sex love in any traditional media, social media, advertising or movies, not just in those with children in the audience.”
Yes, and that's a fascist law. Define "positive mention of homosexuality". Is two men holding hands a "positive mention" of homosexuality? Should that be banned by law?
It has led to people being arrested for wearing pride badges in public. It has led to LGBT themed literature being banned from circulation. It has led to gay clubs being raided. If a "Christian propaganda" law was passed, would that be acceptable? Would Christians be persecuted if that was law and enforced?
>It is what it is: No Propaganda in any shape or form. Period.
So you hate free speech then. You want to use the state to kick down people's doors for saying things you don't like, that you judge to be "propaganda". You think people who make LGBT themed music albums should be arrested. You think a screenwriter and director who produce a movie with a gay character in it should be arrested.
You are an anti-american, totalitarian fascist.
And you continue to endorse, support and defend perverts, degenerates, deviants, groomers and pedos.
Stay away from kids.
No, I do not. There are already laws against pedophilia. You are not talking about blocking pedophilia. You are endorsing legislation that stops consenting adults from doing things with other consenting adults. I support the civil rights of LGBT people to be themselves openly, just like straight people are.
Straight people can hold hands and kiss in public. I support the same for LGBT people. Creatives can write books, write music, produce tv shows and films about straight people. I support the same for LGBT people. I am against using the state to censor people.
You are an anti-american, totalitarian fascist.
Grooming kids is not a civil right.
Taking over girls/women’s bathrooms, locker rooms and sports is not a civil right.
Endorsing adult/pornographic/gay books and other material in schools/libraries is not a civil right.
Pushing their agendas on others is not a civil right.
Demanding affirmation from others is not a civil right.
>Grooming kids is not a civil right.
I didn't say it was. A good thing that's not what we're talking about.
>Taking over girls/women’s bathrooms, locker rooms and sports is not a civil right.
Did I mention any of those things?
>Endorsing adult/pornographic/gay books and other material in schools/libraries is not a civil right.
We're not talking about pornographic material in libraries.
>Pushing their agendas on others is not a civil right.
What does it mean to "put their agendas on others"? Is a TV show that depicts a gay person "pushing their agenda" onto others?
As I said: I support the civil rights of LGBT people to be themselves openly, just like straight people are.
Straight people can hold hands and kiss in public. I support the same for LGBT people. Creatives can write books, write music, produce tv shows and films about straight people. I support the same for LGBT people. I am against using the state to censor people.
>Demanding affirmation from others is not a civil right.
When did I say this should be a civil right?
Fascist