Did we blame Obama for Pulse Nightclub? Negatory.
Did we blame him for the Charleston Church shooting? Nope.
Not a single person blamed Obama for the 24 mass shootings that happened during his tenure.
What changed? Dems/Libs are liars & slanderers who severely suffer Trump Derangement Syndrome, that's what.
Well the Democrats only have goofy a$$ Biden[We call him GAB now for short},so yes they will go after this to try and bring down the Donald. Wait and see the next Donald rally will be packed.
shareWhat is this TDS? Is it some sort of disease where people prop some loud mouthed rich boy above his station then complain about it when others don't drink the koolaid?
Sounds really messed up. It's almost as if they voted for someone who was a complete joke the other three times he ran for office.
The stats show that Trump's the most effective president since Reagan -- booming economy, record unemployment, smart foreign policy, wise tax cuts and government deregulating, etc. The fact that you aren't aware of this documented data is troubling.
Trump Derangement Syndrome (TDS) naturally results when an American unwisely limits his/her news sources to LIEberal politicos & their sycophants, like CNN, MSNBC, Rachel Maddow, The View.
These are the same people who spent decades in bed with communist Moscow, then 8 years appeasing Putin while attacking Republicans for warning about Russian threats, and then suddenly became hysterical anti-Russian hawks when Trump won and the narrative changed. There's so little intellectual depth or consistency that I have yet to find a Democrat on this board (and precious few elsewhere) who's capable of sustained, rational discourse.
shareWhile I agree with your last statement, I believe leaders have the responsibility to set the right tone. Every other republican president has been labeled as racist, but it was easy to defend the ones who obviously weren't. Some of Trump's stupid statements can be easily taken to be racist and in support of white supremacy. It's hard to know what's in his heart because he's unable to articulate his thoughts. It wouldn't be so easy to blame him for the shooting if he were clearer about his motives for certain policies. I blame him for that (not the shooting) just as I blame Obama for setting the tone for the rise of racial and cultural division (not the shootings).
I also believe the tone of anger, hatred, and over-the-top emotional outbursts coming from the media isn't helpful.
No they can’t. Only a close minded idiot thinks Trumps a racist. When you hear or read his words and place them against what the media reports, it’s 180 degree opposite. This includes his 3 separate addresses on Charollete.
This is the result of a corrupt Democrat party media. We have a media lying and inciting violence daily colluding with the Democrat party. It’s amazing more hasn’t happened.
They called Trumps inauguration speech Hitlarian. 30 second after the gave it. Nuff said. The brainless Democrat lemmings are only capable of repeating what they’re told. Change the media, change the lemmings.
I agree the media misrepresents probably 98% of what Trump says. However, it's the other 2% that's hard to defend. For instance, when two brothers beat up a homeless Hispanic man because "Trump is right", Trump said his supporters are passionate about making the country great again. I'm pretty sure I know what he meant, but it was stupid of him to phrase it that way at that time.
shareHe's a terrible politician, but I don't think he's a racist. He does put his foot in his mouth a lot, but he doesn't have a lifetime of lying as a public official as practice.
shareOnly a close minded idiot thinks Trumps a racist. When you hear or read his words and place them against what the media reports, it’s 180 degree opposite. This includes his 3 separate addresses on Charollete.
This is the result of a corrupt Democrat party media. We have a media lying and inciting violence daily colluding with the Democrat party. It’s amazing more hasn’t happened.
They called Trumps inauguration speech Hitlarian. 30 second after the gave it. Nuff said. The brainless Democrat lemmings are only capable of repeating what they’re told. Change the media, change the lemmings.
Was Clinton blamed for Columbine? No.
We knew then the problems coming with social media. Now we’ve added a 24/7 news cycle. Twitter. Facebook. YouTube. The obsessive need to be famous. Psychotropic meds. Energy drinks with caffein amounts equal to 6 pots of coffee. Endless list of 1st person shooter games being played 140 hours a week. And what are we talking about, the same tired gun laws arguments we’ve been having since Reagan was shot. 20,000 gun laws on the books. Brady Bill after Brady Bill.
A complete waste of time.
The reasons you cite are obvious, but Dems/Libs (one-and-the-same) can't see the forest for the trees. All they can think of is (1) it's Trump's fault and (2) let's take away gun rights from the innocent law-abiding citizens who didn't commit the wicked murders, which is in line with their ideology that never holds the perpetrator responsible because he/she is the victim (rolling my eyes).
We KNOW the problem isn't guns since it was just a couple decades ago that kids used to bring their rifles to school, no problem. So what changed in the meantime? The answers you give are all relevant. But here's a more general reason: Libs took over our learning institutions & media and taught (1) there is no God (and, therefore, no ultimate accounting or rewards), (2) we're just animals, (3) evil doesn't exist and (4) life is meaningless.
They know, but the truth doesn't suit their narrative. The Dems literally put their own position of power before human lives.
shareNone of those shooters wrote manifestos echoing the rhetoric of Obama before carrying out their attacks.
shareThat's not true. Micah Johnson literally said "Black Lives Matter" after murdering several police officers in Dallas a few years ago. Lots of these mass killers have invoked liberal rhetoric on various issues. Heck, even the El Paso shooter's manifesto expressed his environmentalism, support for universal healthcare and a universal basic income, and his disdain for corporations. You might say it's unfair to tie those views to the shooting but it's also unfair and is dishonest to tie it to Trump or conservatives. His manifesto argument even bases much of his support for killing Hispanics on his desire to make the liberal social government policies he supports feasible. In his only mention of Trump he also made it clear that his views long predate Trump's campaign and aren't tied to any politician, though he correctly anticipated the media would try to claim otherwise.
shareThe El Paso shooter didn't target conservatives or corporate executives, did he? He drove nine hours in order to carry out his shooting in one of the most heavily hispanic areas in the country. THAT'S what he did. And in his manifesto, he sounds a lot like Trump and Tucker Carlson and others of that ilk.
shareHe doesn't sound anything like Trump or Carlson, both of whom oppose murder and favor a color blind society where Americans are "one people". And what does that have to do with what I just posted refuting your BS claim about these shooters not echoing rhetoric from Obama and other leftists?
shareSometimes Trump says nice things. At other times he says not so nice things. You're just ignoring the ugly things Trump has said. Which were repeated in the manifesto.
I'm not going to go around with you about the difference between having some political views and being MOTIVATED to do something horrible by those views again. Tired of it. You either are too dumb to get it or are being deliberately obtuse.
No, Trump is actually more unifying in his rhetoric than any recent national politician I know of except for George W. Bush. Again, leftist propagandists routinely lie about his comments as they do with other innocent people they smear, and you're stupid enough to be easily manipulated by that crap.
I've never heard Trump attack regular Americans of any race, creed, sex, or even political affiliation. He attacks celebrity and political individuals, usually after they attack him first, but he appeals to rank and file liberals to vote for him. By contrast Democrats regularly attack regular Americans as "deplorables", "racist", etc. That stuff really does cultivate hatred between Americans, not Trump's speeches.
Yet we blame Hitler for the murder of millions of people. What changed? Derp.
Trump is blamed because he joked about shooting illegal immigrants and normalizes racism with his rhetoric. That's why. He actually did things to encourage the shooter.
Hogwash. Aside from the shooter explicitly distancing himself from Trump, actual Trump rhetoric is unifying and the opposite of bigoted, for example how he frequently closes his rally speeches:
"We are one people, one family and one glorious nation under God,"
Or touting the lowest Hispanic unemployment rate on record, saying we like legal immigrants (to loud cheers from supporters), etc..
http://thesource.com/2019/08/06/donald-trump-joke-shooting-immigrants/
Yeah, his rhetoric about immigrants is the problem.
Again, hogwash. Your leftist propagandists routinely lie about his comments, as anyone who listens to his speeches unfiltered knows. Regardless, the El Paso shooter himself, whose manifesto you're taking at face value, explicitly rejected any notion that he's been influenced by Trump or any other politician.
shareAnd then he went on to repeat a lot of Trump's rhetoric in that manifesto.
Not to mention he explicitly stated he was striking out at immigrants from south of the border.
Not really, as I've demonstrated. That's why you aren't basing your argument on actual quotes like I have. And for you to ignore all the liberal rhetoric in his manifesto proves your gross hypocrisy.
sharehttps://www.businessinsider.com/trump-tweet-blaming-media-echoes-el-paso-shooter-manifesto-2019-8
shareThey only cite two examples, "fake news" and "invasion". Pathetic. Lots of people of varying political persuasions accurately described massive illegal immigration as an "invasion" long before Trump came onto the scene. Trump did seize "fake news" away from the leftists who coined it, and legitimately so, though people have been criticizing media bias and dishonesty for many decades. The shooter's prediction about what the fake news would do was one thing he got completely right.
You ignore the liberal rhetoric in the manifesto. Then there's this:
http://www.anncoulter.com/columns/2019-08-07.html#read_more
If there's been no change in common leftist rhetoric dehumanizing conservatives and cops after James Hodgkinson, Floyd Corkins, Micah Johnson, Van Spronsen, etc., who really were influenced by it (as opposed to the El Paso shooter whose mix of left wing and anti-Hispanic views were solidified years before Trump launched his campaign), then it's comically hypocritical for you to cry crocodile tears over alleged "trump rhetoric" now. I haven't even seen you condemn Antifa despite our extensive discussion about their vile antics on the other thread.
One can't honestly take the left's bleating about rhetoric seriously when Democrats still call themselves "the Resistance", using the language of war in opposing their fellow citizens. Or when their office holders, who have power over Americans' lives, publicly encourage illegal harassment of Trump supporters (e.g. Maxine Waters, Castro).
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