In the beginning of the season it was like "We have to restore the timeline exactly the way it was."
But, then Jurati and the queen go off to create a new good Borg to replace the old bad Borg.
Isn't this a huge change the timeline?
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Here's my reply back to another topic in regards to the opinion that the BORG QUEEN is suppose to be "GOOD" now:
The BORG QUEEN doesn't strike one as being "GOOD" as much as she knows what AGNES told her is true (about NEVER WINNING the BATTLES that she has whenever she does encounter some other SPECIES that is GOOD).
In other words, she's probably more "MACHIAVELLIAN" in nature, and is doing what she does because her goal is to bolster her own power and influence, rather than doing what she does for the benefit of other species or humankind.
And IF she makes an alliance with those CREATURES from S1, then she'd probably also be a much more formidable foe and opponent than she is now (which may also explain the reason why she said an alliance with the FEDERATION was only a temporary one).
Because doesn't that also seem to suggest she'll only align herself with the FEDERATION temporarily until something else better comes along?
That's the reason why I'm still thinking she's most likely still up to "NO GOOD" rather than her actually being GOOD now.
They didn't let Jurati do that, they weren't able to stop her. But yes, it would massively change history.The Borg would have never been what they are in TNG, Voyager, the movies, but I think the characters who traveled in time in Picard would remember them as that even if no one else would.
shareWere Chris and Jurati never born in the new timeline?
Do you think Jurati ever got laid?
My first reaction is to say no, but they already existed in the old one and as a part of the group that time travelers they are in the "know", meaning they remember the old timeline and can still be a part of the new one. Happens a lot in time travel movies. It's like how Doc and Marty remember the original history while living in the alternate timeline in part 2.
sharetrue, but in the first back to the future, when Marty came back from 1955, there was another Marty. I would assume this same time travel paradox would apply to Chris and Jurati. even though Chris never returned from the past, I would assume there would be a Chris in the new timeline. if they were never born in the new timeline, then that means their parents never hooked up. it kind of creates a paradox in itself. its confusing.
or when Picard returned from the past to future, it created an alternate timeline where Chris and Jurati never existed.
its like trying to understand the movie Primer.
There was another Marty in 1955, not the present and I think that's because no one ever erased Marty'd original trip there. It's now a part of history. Marty is in 1955 now.
It's possible there's a Chris and Jurati. They were born, lived their lives, etc., but he ended up back in the past and her the Borg Queen. It's fun to theorize, but time travel can drive you nuts.
no doubt, time travel can drive you nuts as well as the new Picard series. I hope this is the last season, not sure where they can go from here.
shareThere's already another Season (which will also be the LAST and Final SEASON of Star Trek: PICARD). And wherever it's going it's also going to involve bringing back MOST of TNG crew who will also appear in S3.
So WHY would they show up? I'm thinking it might be because they receive some WEDDING INVITATIONS from PICARD???
Because now that he's confronted his childhood memories (which explored the reasons why he never had lasting relationships or had children), perhaps he'll marry his housekeeper???
Since Agnes said there's a reason why she needs to GUARD the TRANSWARP HUB, that probably also means something will show up there that will need to be dealt with.
Perhaps it might also be those creatures we saw about to enter the area Data's daughter opened up before changing her mind and closing the area back up again?
Wasn't their purpose to destory all organic life???
Those creatures might be even worse than the BORG.
Initially, I thought maybe they were all coming back because Picard was going to die, but I think you are right: he's going to marry Laris.
shareBoth things could happen. He could marry Laris and then something else could happen that kills him. Or maybe he could even die before the wedding??? If TNG crew shows up for his FUNERAL, then S3 might also be a series of FLASHBACKS where we'd discover what has caused his death???
shareI don't see him finally committing to someone just to kill him off.
shareSo how do you see the SERIES ending then? Surely something has to happen that explains the reason why we won't have another Season after the end of S3???
share"Surely something has to happen that explains the reason why we won't have another Season after the end of S3???"
Why can't it just end? We don't need an explanation, we just assume they continue about their lives (we just don't see it).
Sure it could end with the wedding of PICARD to LARIS, but with his limited life expectancy due to his being in his 90's, it's not very likely it's a marriage that's going to last very long.
And when you consider how they've killed off PICARD, DATA, and Q in just 2 seasons, that also makes one suspect that they'll do in someone else again next season.
Plus they've also gotten rid of 2 other MAIN CHARACTERS as well (Rios and Agnes).
It was concieved as a three season show. They filmed 2 and 3 back to back. The third season will have the cast of TNG. I expect the pacing to be bad and some TNG characters killed iff.
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