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Overhyped

posted a year ago by fani (371)
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Happened to watch this movie and tbh it's not really all that great. I don't think this movie is Oscar worthy.

Personally I've found that movies I like don't win Oscars now but it is some foreign or low budget indie rubbish that no one remembers.

In the 80s and 90s and early 2000s I've found that I watched many Oscar winners because they were genuinely good. But now in last 10y I watched only 2. Prior to this I watched most of them. Personally my list has Top Gun Moverick beating this since that is what Oscars means to me - best movie of the year.

Coming to this movie, I found it interesting sci-fi but it was basically all over and made very little sense tbh. I thought maybe the lead was schizophrenic and it will end with her in the bed and the daughter holding her hand and her imagining all this and eventually coming back to reality and accepting things about her daughter.
Would have made it much better tbh.

Michelle Yeohs acting is very good as was the Waymond and Jamie Lee Curtis acting but tbh not Oscar winning but nominating.

I couldn't care less about diversity or all that and just want best things to win regardless of the metadata around them such as ethnicity , skin color etc. I don't care about these attributes and if they are good they are good regardless of this being a consideration (Asian people never won etc. Let's celebrate RRR winning best song because we overcame American racism etc type bs. I'm on a rant now but yeah, it is the same America that gave the award so how is it overcoming anything when it's being celebrated here by all? How many American movies or actors or actresses won best movie in India and Chinese movie awards? Aren't they racist for not nominating our movies there?)

Anyways, I feel this movie is overhyped and not all that great.

On side note (not related to this movie)
I'm just tuned out of oscars now because foreign movies win all awards as if American movies are crap and worthless and it's not even fair because movies like Parasite wins best foreign films(where American movies can't even compete) and best movie. Oscars started about American movies. If you don't do that then what's the award category that celebrates our movies? Fine to have best foreign movie but need our own movies given how other countries do the same (and you can't give the excuse that say it's movies that ran in theaters here because American movies also run in other countries but don't get even considered for their local awards)

I'd rate it a 6/10 and surely not an Oscar winner for most wins it got.

[–] christomacin (4529) a year ago

OK, but weren't several Fellini and Bergman films also put up for Best Picture "back in the day"? Also, Il Postino got a BP nod too. Granted they never won... I'm not sure if the BAFTA or Cesar Awards are open to non-British/French films or not.

[–] capuchin (2670) a year ago

The BAFTA Best Film Award works the same as the AMPAS Best Picture: films from anywhere are eligible, but mysteriously Anglophone films almost always win.

To be eligible for the César du meilleur film, your film must have French funding behind it. France essentially has 'best domestic' and 'best foreign' film awards, which -- to me -- is a far more sensible approach. Both the UK and USA should adopt this.

Because, unlike the OP, I think the problem with the Oscars is that it pretends to be a global phenomenon, but is very, very Americentric.

Of course, it's allowed to be Americentric. It's an American awards ceremony. But don't pretend to be anything other than that then; it makes them look immensely insular and arrogant.

And you end up with an embarrassing situation where, in a category in which any film from anywhere is eligible, the winner is almost always American. Parasite was -- famously, I thought -- the first foreign-language film to win Best Picture...

... so in every other year, the best film released in the whole world was one made in the English language and almost always one from an American studio too? Oh, the USA has a strong film industry. But how likely does that really seem?

[–] fani (371) a year ago

It is very pretentious and that is the point. Given the vast number of movies and in different languages, it is not right to pick some random subset and call it the best picture. Best Picture among what? All movies made by all countries in all languages?

I would agree with you that Best American movie and Best Foreign Movie category seems ideal.

American movies should be movies made by Americans and should be the prime highlight of Oscars which is an American award.

Parasite isn't the first foreign language film to have multiple wins in American awards. The Last Emperor was in English and Mandarin as well so maybe that one too.

Overall I think it is stupid to have non American movies in Oscars and pick from like very few and then also put them in Best Foreign Film and Best Picture overall too.

Oscars should just remove the foreign films and only award American movies in English primarily. Those should be the criteria.

Oscars should be about celebration of American movies and pride in American movies. We should certainly show and enjoy foreign movies in our theaters but then create a Best Foreign Picture category for non American movies (which could be in English too such as from Canada/Britain).

[–] capuchin (2670) a year ago

Parasite isn't the first foreign language film to have multiple wins in American awards

No. But it's the first -- and only -- non-English language film to win Best Picture. Which is what I said it was. And they're not 'American' awards. By definition, a foreign-produced film could not win in a category for which it was not eligible. That's the problem: this thin veneer of being 'global', which is not really reflected in the nominations or winners.

The Oscars already is what you want it to be: it is a celebration of the American film industry, which barely looks outside of itself. It's very Americentric and very Anglophone. Of course, this reflects the mainstream American film-going audience who also tend to be very focused on themselves in their viewing habits, so it's understandable.

But it shouldn't pretend to be anything else. So, yes, I think we agree that the Best Picture award should be redefined as essentially Best US-Produced Picture. But we think this for very different, almost oppositional reasons.

In any case, you'd never get a perfect award ceremony. They're all inherently ridiculous anyway. So I don't suppose it matters that much one way or the other. People shouldn't emotionally invest in them.

[–] jacotodd47 (997) a year ago

I'm definitely curious. I've got a SHOWTIME freebie coming up next week and EEAAO is on the top of the list. I don't expect it to be incredibly good. As a matter of fact, I just went thru the most recent Best Picture winners to find one I thought I was outstanding. Well, I had to go all the way back to 2007. "No Country For Old Men" . The most recent couple of winners, "CODA", "NOmadland", "Parasite", "Green Book". They were all ok - nothing really special. I'm hoping EEAAO turns out to be a pleasant surprise - meaning it turns out to be terrific. We'll see......

[–] R_Kane (15828) a year ago

Point of order, OP: “hype” is an abbreviation of “hyperbole,”
which means “exaggerated and undue praise.” Prithee, explain how something can be “over over exaggerated.” Really. I want to know, so I expect an answer from your illiterate, inarticulate ass.

I know: “It’s only the internet. Who cares?”

It is “only” the biggest social engine ever made for disseminating misinformation and stupidity. It’s the Tower of Babel, dolt.

[–] Burk48917 (10984) 5 months ago

homosayswhat?

[–] LetoAtreides (474) a year ago

"personally my list has Top Gun Moverick beating this!"

Right...