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Rogers holding back Thanos

posted 6 years ago by ExTechOp (2770)
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So the newly released digital download's commentary track spells it out

Thanos was deliberately holding back against each of the Avengers because he loves the sport

But in Steve's case, he wasn't remotely being challenged. That look on his face was supposed to be amusement with a touch of admiration. Then he punches Steve down (just hard enough to knock him out, again on purpose).

They also point out that the gauntlet-grab and punch was slowed down considerably.

[–] TandyMan (10645) 6 years ago

That was my favorite scene in the whole movie. Thanos is like, "Damn, this little dude is fierce as hell." Thanos clearly respected all the Avengers as being the strongest of their peoples.

[–] DracTarashV2 (4479) 6 years ago

Naturally. Those aware of Thanos’ strength and power (while wearing the freaking Gauntlet, no less) could always tell what was going through the Mad Titan’s head at that moment. Needles to say, many accurately interpreted this scene back when the trailer came out.

Whilst Thanos could’ve taken out Steve at any moment, proving to be strong in his own right - and resisting so much - is the last thing he had expected from this apparent mere mortal. So as amused as Thanos was by him, Steve did earn his admiration. As it is, the Mad Titan had no time to play games and so he stopped letting Cap think that he stood any chance against him —with zero effort.

One surprising revelation about the commentary (as it’s been reported), is Hulk’s reason for not showing up. Supposedly it wasn’t fear that was holding him back... he basically has had enough of being Bruce’s backup.

[–] TandyMan (10645) 6 years ago

I like that. That sounds very Hulk to me. I hope that's actually what's explored in the next movie.

[–] ExTechOp (2770) 6 years ago

Apparently Ruffalo sat with Feige and they discussed what Ruffalo would like to see in Hulk standalone movies (since Universal's rights prevent them from actually making Hulk standalone movies), and what they came up with was rolled into Ragnarok and these two Avengers movies.

It'll be neat to see what they do, but I can't help wondering if they're ready to cut Hulk loose because of Ruffalo's loose lips. From what I can tell in interviews, he's worse than Tom Holland in that regard.

[–] TandyMan (10645) 6 years ago

The movies have treated Hulk a little bit like a superpower Banner can activate, when it's much more of a Jeckyl & Hyde situation. If they want to waste some time in Avengers 4 delving into that, i'm all about it.

And yeah, Ruffalo is way too laid back and honest a guy to be in the secret mill. That's part of his charm.

[–] Alex (1495) 6 years ago

No, that's fucking stupid. Mortally wounding or killing Banner would bring the Hulk out, no f*cking matter what.
Did you people forget how Banner suicide jumped onto Bifrost and summoned the Hulk in Thor:Ragnarok?
Did you also forget how Black Widow pushed Banner down the chasm in Avengers: Age of Ultron and summoned the Hulk, again?
Killing Banner is a f*cking 100% success rate and somehow Banner was too dumb to use it here.

To add insult to injury, others were even trying to protect him from harm during New York fight.

[–] ExTechOp (2770) 6 years ago

I remember how Banner crashed into the Bifrost and seemed pretty darn close to dead, before Hulk actually came out.

Killing Banner has had a 100% success rate SO FAR ... but this is after years on Sakaar, where Hulk developed his own personality and agenda, only to be trumped by Banner once more

Hulk's "grown" to the emotional and intellectual equivalent of a child, no longer a mindless brute but not mature enough to do what's in everyone's best interest but his own

Under those circumstances, it makes perfect sense to me that Hulk would rather die than go on being Banner's blunt tool.

That Banner senses this too is why he won't just kill himself to bring out the Hulk. He, too, knows that this time, Hulk may choose not to oblige, letting them both die out of pure petulance.

[–] FilmBuff (6847) 6 years ago

I have not heard the commentary track yet, but it's a testimony to the ability of the filmmakers and actors that I understood all of that simply from the action on the screen. They were able to convey a small paragraph worth of feeling and intent through nothing but facial expressions and camerawork. Buster Keaton would be proud.