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But if everyone knows the ENDING......


Do you think they will change the ending ???

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Good question, but I think it would be stupid to change the ending. I remember reading a play of Agatha's "Ten Little Indians" where they completely changed the ending, and apparently this thing was actually produced on Broadway. It was terrible, even though basically everyone knew the original ending if you read the book.

I don't necessarily believe it ruins a movie if you know the ending of the movie going into it...look at "Titanic"...everyone knew the ending beforehand, and it still became the highest grossing film of all time at the time, won at least 10 Oscars, and was critically acclaimed.

I think it's more how you execute that makes it resonate with the audience. I also feel that the previous adaptations of "Murder on the Orient Express" were disappointing and kind of a letdown, so I think it's fitting if they are able to make a true version that's consistent with Agatha's true original vision.

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I think it's more how you execute that makes it resonate with the audience. I also feel that the previous adaptations of "Murder on the Orient Express" were disappointing and kind of a letdown, so I think it's fitting if they are able to make a true version that's consistent with Agatha's true original vision.

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I also feel that the previous adaptations of "Murder on the Orient Express" were disappointing and kind of a letdown

If you don't mind me asking, does that include the 1974 film? If so, may I ask why you felt that way? I'm just curious, because I felt it was a pretty faithful adaptation, other than a few characters' names being changed.

Also, was the play of And Then There Were None that you read also written by Agatha? Because, if so, I also dislike that ending, and I'm very disappointed that that ending has been used in almost every screen adaptation of the book. Only 2 versions use the book's ending.

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Yes, that included the 1974 film version. To be honest it's been nearly 12 or 13 years since I've seen it. Maybe I was exaggerating a little. I liked it to a degree, but I just remember feeling a little letdown because I had just read the book and it was such an awesome book. From what I recall, I just felt that felt that the movie was good but could have been more thrilling. To sum up my feelings, I feel the same way as Roger Ebert did in his review: it's a 3-star movie (out of 3), but nothing more. Whereas the book is easily a 4-star book. Also, perhaps I was expecting more out of a Sidney Lumet movie, because I love his other movies to death (forgive the pun).

I'm not sure if the play of And There Will Be None was specifically the version of the play that you're referring to, but I assume it probably is. (BTW And There Will Be None is the same as Ten Little Indians, but they changed the title to make it more politically correct. That play that I'm referring to might have been called either, but I can't remember at the moment.) In the version of the play that I read, two characters (I think it was Vera and someone else--forgive me, now I recalling something that I read nearly 15 years ago!) end up falling for each other in the end as the murders get solved. Whereas you know in the book there's the famous postscript by Wargrave. The ending of this play version is a crime and a slap in the face to Agatha.

By the way, you know what would really be cool is if they could do a remake of The Murder of Roger Ackroyd!



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"The ending to this play version is a crime and a slap in the face to Agatha."

It doesn't seem like you know the history of And Then There Were None being adapted. Christie was very pleased with the book, but she also wrote the screenplay for the theater. She felt the original ending wasn't appropriate for stage, and since the Ten Little Indians' poems has multiple versions, she changed it to Vera and Philip falling in love and escaping. She was very happy with this version too and thought it did well on stage. This adaptation was used for film and stage up until 2005.

The ending wasn't changed to surprise anyone, and Christie liked it herself, so hardly a slap in her own face.

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Not everyone knows the ending. Until I saw the 1974 film a few months ago, I had no idea how it ended.

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Most people don`t know the ending.

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I was wondering that too.

Whatever you are, be a good one.

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I found out the ending from a sitcom.
But I wonder who this movie is made for, not Johnny Depp Fans or he would be Poirot.
not movie fans you have the 1974 version
I guess it's only for people who like new stuff?

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I was thinking the same thing however it's always great to see how they'll execute. I love the atmosphere of the trailer and am looking forward to it!

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Changing who the killer is would change the story completely. The story's unique because of who the killer is.

I'm interested in seeing if they change Poirot's solution to the murder after the mystery is solved. In the book, in my opinion, he reacts completely out of character in comparison to his actions in other books. In the TV version with David Suchet, they changed the ending enough to match how I think Poirot would react.

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I think the only reaction that fits Poirot's character would be for him to show sympathy, but nonetheless give them the chance to turn themselves in before he does.

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I just watched it on TV in 2023, not having read the book, seen the previous movie, or known much of anything about it!

It was quite a surprise for me! But I do agree, I was much more interested NOT knowing the ending. Kind of like how Titanic would be, LOL.

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