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Poor Nacho. He didn't deserve to die. Did he leave behind any kids?


Any little Chalupas? Gordita Crunches? Beefy Melts or Doritos Locos Tacos? Nachos BellGrande or Crunchwrap Supremes?

The reason I ask is because Beef Supreme was in Idiocracy and I thought he might be a descendant, but that's like 500 years into the future.

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There was no talk of kids, but we didn't get much backstory on him except for his father.

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Nacho’s home life was spent with two beautiful drug addict girlfriends who were always there for him. They made boxed Mac & Cheese and sat on the sofa with him, when not doing meth and having white hot sex with him. It was a full life— until it ended.

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Most of us knew that his death was a strong probability but regardless, I think it was handled rather poorly. Like the writers just needed him to die so they lazily had characters (Gus in particular) doing stupid, nonsensical things to put Nacho in an inescapable situation.

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I think that Nacho's death was caused by Mike betraying him. Nacho was smart and disciplined and Mike was very good at engineering escapes. There's the moment when Gus basically tells Mike to allow Nacho be caught, because Gus needs a fall guy to take the blame for the attack on Lalo, so that Gus himself doesn't come under suspicion. And then there's a moment when Mike knows he can get Nacho out and Mike makes the conscious decision to obey Gus and let Nacho be caught. So Nacho was killed because Mike stopped helping him. I think that's why Mike in the end gave up and let Walt kill him, because Mike knew that he betrayed a decent person and that he didn't really deserve to get away alive after having let Nacho be killed.

In, I think it's the first episode of the last season, Kim and Saul sit down together in a diner or restaurant and Saul wants to stop taking down Howard but Kim really wants to keep going because she's having fun or whatever. And Kim says, everything we do to destroy Howard needs to have a reason, a logical cause-and-effect relationship between what we do and how Howard goes down, but it has to be hidden so it can't be traced back to us (something like that). And I think that's basically what the whole season is about, that everything that happens in the show has a reason that comes from what motivates the people in the show.

So going back to Gus, I think Gus's reason is that Gus isn't stupid, he's just a terrible person who doesn't care about anything but getting revenge and his own survival. Other people are just pawns in his game and it's not important to him whether they live or die.

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Gus needs a fall guy to take the blame for the attack on Lalo, so that Gus himself doesn't come under suspicion.


He really didn't because not only did suspicion fall on him anyway, which he surely expected but blind suspicion from the Salamancas without evidence to tie anything to him would have been the much safer option for Gus than leaving Nacho out to dry in Salamanca territory where he can immediately point the finger at Gus if capture. It was pure dumb luck that isn't what happened. It's also important to note that it was not Gus' original plan to use Nacho as a scapegoat. He had already ordered the hit on Lalo when he assumed Nacho was still in Albuquerque.

The writers had Gus idiotically decide to put Nacho in the middle of the Lalo hit at the very last minute for no discernable reason. Again a contrived writing copout in order to put Nacho in an inescapable situation so they could hurriedly wrap up his storyline. In doing so Gus needlessly threw away a valuable asset & instead turned Nacho into a huge liability that should very well have been Gus's undoing but through pure luck & plot armor he narrowly escapes the consequences of his horrendous decision making from blowing up in his face.

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It’s quite fitting that Gus had something blow up in his face in Breaking Bad.

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