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Say what you want about this movie but...


The scene where Batman clears that whole floor to save Superman's Mom is the single best ass whipping scene in a Batman movie and it's not even close.

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Correct. I love Batman 89 but BvS was the first time I thought "I'm actually seeing the Batman from the comics on screen for the first time." Aside from the incidental killing (which I know will be brought up) but different mediums require different allowances and constraints.

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It is a legitimately exciting and well done action sequence. Easily the best part in the movie. And it has one of the few genuinely funny one-liners in the movie when Martha explains she recognized Batman via his cape.
If the rest of the movie was like this in spirit and tone, let me tell you something...WB and Snyder could have had something here. Maybe not a new genre classic per se but a more worthwhile crowd-pleasing kind of movie that what we got.

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Wasn't most of the movie tone like this though? Dark and brooding or are you in reference to the one liner - gritty action sequence followed by funny jokes like the James Gunn style? I think the movie suffered from a poor villain and bloat ala Doomsday, introduction of Wonder Women and even the death of Superman. If Snyder and the writers had decent vision this movie should have been all about Batman's paranoia (which they did do and not that well) and Luther's framing of Superman - the framing the climax of the film. Then you have SvB 2 and the actual build up to the battle and conclusion of that. Followed by a much later Justice League movie with Doomsday killing Superman.

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Not quite. For me, the movie was dark but dumb. The overplotting didn't hep matters.
But this one section of the movie was directed well enough that it felt almost like a neo-noir superhero film and for its grittiness, it allowed a small moment of levity that doesn't feel tonally out of place and remained somewhat in character for Martha Kent as we saw her in this iteration thus far.
I'd probably compare this scene more to John Wick than James Gunn.

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Yes, it's definitely more Wick and not really Gunn at all. I thought you were implying that the movie needed more humor hence my Gunn comment. His formula is basically slow motion, action sequence followed by jokes. I thought the warehouse scene was the best part of the movie by far.

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Those stupid jokes are the worst in superhero movies. Completely unfunny and no one in a comparable real life scenario would ever make them especially at that time. I'd rather the character let out a wet fart for the "comedic relief" than one of those corny ass lines.

Pretty much every action and horror video game can go on for hours and be totally immersing without one of these lines, so the idea they are necessary is a farce.

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