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Was there any hint or indication that he was enhanced/augmented/super human?


I don't understand the appeal. I get that it's a comic book movie, but it's difficult to apply suspension of disbelief if there's not some sort of explanation for why he can do the things he can do.

Even martial arts movies have some sort of "channeling your inner chi" or other mystical arcane power, taught by an old master to a worthy and noble outcast.

But John Wick has none of that. Just an everyday Joe that, what? Tries harder than everyone else? Has some unique training? The world is full of people that give full effort and train hard. What makes him so special? I can't immerse in it.

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But John is a man of focus, commitment, and sheer fucking will.

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And what makes him different than any other person that has focus, commitment, and sheer fucking will?

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HE IS THE BABA FUCKING YAGA!

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Okay.

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No just extremely skilled.

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He showed these men of will, what will really was.

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And what is that? What is it that he really was?

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How could a little country like Vietnam win a war against the effin' US of A?
REAL focus, REAL commitment, and REAL will...

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The same way the colonies won the American revolution against the British Empire. Not by besting them in skill, ability, or equipment, but by making it too difficult and too costly to continue waging war.

There was also a political and leadership component to the Vietnam quagmire. For the most part, the American troops won the battles, but lost the war.

John Wick did none of these. He was clearly superior to all of his peers and performed seemingly superhuman feats.

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He is supposed to be Turkish. Some say his father was German. Nobody believed he was real. Nobody ever saw him or knew anybody that ever worked directly for him, but to hear Kobayashi tell it, anybody could have worked for Wick.

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LOL. Well done.

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Is this the only JW movie you ever saw? The sequels introduce the idea that, yes, similar to a kung fu movie, he went through some top secret fantasy mafia training program which creates the word's ultimate assassins. Someone's got to be the #1 they ever produced and apparently that's John.

Like others have said, this is basically a shooter video game in the form of a movie. Getting all brow-furrowy and analytical about it... don't you feel like you already wasted enough of your time just sitting through it?

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Notice there isnt a 1000 women hating incels complaining about his near superhuman abilities - like the ones on the Star wars discussions.

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Interesting observation. When it comes to superhuman (or alien), then anything goes for powers and ability. If John Wick has some sort of supernatural ability or augmented physiology, then I'm okay with that. I don't see any indication of that in the movie.

I have no issue with force users doing the things they do. I do think that while Rey's power may be inherent to her, her ability to wield it seem unearned. At least John Wick started at the end, with an established lifetime of doing this beforehand.

If we look at Luke, he struggled with the simplest task with the probe on the Falcon. He struggled with pulling the lightsaber from the snow on Hoth in the cave. He spent extensive time training with Yoda in the swamp, balancing rocks through intense concentration. Even then, he couldn't lift his X-Wing from the water. Yoda had to do it for him. To which he replied, "I don't believe it." Then he got his ass whipped by a decrepit old half-man at the end of Empire.

It wasn't until the third movie that he seemed competent in any way.

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yeah we did see luke struggling in the early days . a little . but thats the exception to the rule in most films .

Also , he abandoned his training on Dagobah after an unspecified period of time.
couldnt be that long though - as long as it took Han to get himself from Hoth to Bespin.


oh and anopther thning , everyones on about Rey not needing training , no one ever mentions superhuman 8yr old Anakin in ep1 . all explained by that "midichlorine" bullshit - that they never referred to again . maybe Rey just had a bunch of that stuff.

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