Holy crap it was awful. It made really no sense in the context of To Serve Man. It was about Consumerism and a carnivorous egg..lol. It was just poorly executed. 44 minutes of garbage. This show is trying to hard too be black mirror. Funny thing is black mirror is closer to Twilight Zone....😂
shareI wouldn't say the episode was awful, but it didn't feel like a sequel to To Serve Men at all. Is this supposed to be a different Earth than the one they invaded in the 60s?
shareI'm guessing it was more a homage/remake type of episode. Not a different earth persay.
shareYeah, I think it was more of a re-imagining than anything else. They basically just used the same antagonists from a classic Twilight Zone to tell an almost completely different story. We were misled to think it was a sequel.
shareSo it's an exact copy according to you?
shareThat's not what I said. It's not a sequel. Its basically a homage. It was marketed as a sequel. Which it really is not. Its not a remake either.
shareYes, it's different. So is an exact copy according to your posts in ST:Picard
shareMaking picard an android was a bad move....I liked the show until the 10th episode. Picard is now dead....
shareNo he lives on as an android
shareNope it's a copy. His twin so to speak.
shareThe copy is him (consciousness transferred)
shareNo transfer. Watch the episode again. They are IMPRINTS...
Which implies copies.
I suggest you watch this video about transporters (in star trek). It's quite informative about the validity of copies being the same as their originals.
I used to have the same reservations you had about the ability to be transferred.
https://youtu.be/nQHBAdShgYI
I already know all that. The thing is though they were never really consistent with the transporters. Some people think that when you are transported you are not the same person when you rematerilize. Problem is the episode with Barclays transporter psychosis clearly showed him conscious while he was within the transporter beam. Unless they say specifically in the episode you are a copy or can be copied with ease I'm not buying it. The Riker copy was done due the planets atmosphere bounce off and the fact that the transporter chief used two separate beams. They never stated if both were the originals and in fact they were ALMOST 100% so one was clearly just a copy...(farscape had a twined episode where they were both equal and original. Excellent episode of that series)
I'm sure though the producers will eventually try to use the logic that fans have mulled over about the transporters as their excuse as well.
Take the old axe example: change the handle, then change the head. When did it stop being the same axe? Now realize that your skin cells alone change every 28 days. Every second you are a different you. What's different about a copy?
shareWhat's different is that it's not picard. Consider the old philosophical question...
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ship_of_Theseus
Picard is less picard than the ship is of its former.
Ah, ridicule. Ok. Bye.
shareLol. No I sent the wrong thing. That was for my girlfriend. I copied a wikipedia link for you, somehow I didnt press copy and I sent the last thing i copied. If was late and I didnt realize. Here it is....https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ship_of_Theseus
Sorry....corrected my last post as well.
LOL, I've done that so often...
shareActually, they already made it clear that making a copy via transporter is quite easy - it's been done more than once in ST TNG, though they did use that function only in rare circumstances.
More on this here - https://www.reddit.com/r/AskScienceFiction/comments/39mmgi/star_trek_why_doesnt_anyone_use_transporter/
The fact is, given the whole clusterfuck with transporters being able to create copies of people, in the real world someone (other than the eternally righteous federation) would massively abuse this function and start clone wars.
Then again, we need to recognize that the reason why transporters functioned like deus ex machina is because the writers were dumb as fuck. Giving the transporters such capability would have opened up a whole other can of worms - something that was never really discussed in STTNG because everyone knew the writers have fucked up. If the transporters really did have that function... it would have changed everything. Again, you are looking at clones, immortality, etc -
As for the picard/android - yeah, that too is another lazy piece of writing - akin to that magical transporter bit.