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Just saw it, my review (spoilers)


Firstly it was strange because it was an introduction to a new Spiderman without an introduction story. We don't see how he became spiderman and he lives only with his Aunt, so is Uncle Ben already deceased? So it feels like we're jumping into a part II of a new storyline. But I quickly let go of this because I know the origin of his story. (A reference to his origin story may have been facilitated with some sort of flashback or montage).

So he's gifted a suit and dropped off in his old life, and quickly ignored by Stark Industries. This created the 'I must prove myself' storyline. Sort of a teenage rebellion storyline, pushing the boundaries.

I think this aspect could have been more strongly achieved. Maybe Tony telling him not to do anything at all except finish highschool (the usual parental speech.)

The next part of the story was a disappointment. The villain storyline is a rehash of Whiplash from Iron Man 2. A nobody who seizes someone else's technology and becomes a bad guy. If I was writing this I'd just have it as a guy who is in a rival technology company instead of an obvious borrowed storyline.

I think Michael Keaton did a good job, particularly scenes like his drive to the school.

The best friend wasn't too bad, nor as annoying as I expected him to be from the trailers. His excuse for being in the computer room was hilarious.

The love interest and MJ character were a little too vague for me. I wasn't sure why his love interest liked him (no real reason given) and the outcast MJ seemed to be annoying for annoying sake.

I did like the twist that Michael Keaton was the father and I never saw it coming, so it was good.

I did notice that there were barely any white people in his school but perhaps that's just realistic for new york these days. There was even a muslim girl, orthodox jew and a gay kid having a chat with the girls.

I liked the technology with the suit but it ventured into Iron Man technology too much, especially with the Jarvis A.I. Also there were two rip offs of back to the future, the self-adjusting suit and built in dryer. I wish they had given a nod to it with Tony saying "back to the future II gave me that idea" because I don't think anyone wouldn't have noticed the cultural reference.

The eyes were cool.

The casting of Peter Parker was good. He sold being a teenager despite being around 20 while this was shot. I wish with his character we could have seen more levels other than the continuous "awkward" emotion that was overplayed. Him getting his big date was a moment I wish they let go of that for a second and just had a good moment. I would have even rewritten the car scene with perhaps him showing some bravery like saying something like "this is a dangerous situation" to which Vulture replies "well of course it is, you're just a--" "for you" Peter replies. "This is dangerous... for you." That way they'd both know it's game on the second he gets out of the car.

The finale scene (saving a cargo plane) was a little disappointing. I wanted something bigger. Why not have Spider Man save Iron Man?

I'll give it 4 stars. It was enjoyable and an improvement over the Amazing Spiderman.

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Your general quick fix ideas are all great. Spider-Man saving Iron Man at the end would have been the perfect capstone for the themes of the film.

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Thanks. I like to do a script-doctor review sometimes and normally get a 'your ideas are terrible' so I was surprised to hear something positive. :D

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The producer said in an interview that any mention of Uncle Ben would have destroyed the "fun, light" tone they were going for. Most infuriating thing I've read about this production yet.

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I was also a little disappointed. Saving Tony Stark would have brought everything full circle. I would have also appreciated if Spider-Man won his fight against Vulture. As it stands, he lost every fight he was in. I know they were going for a rookie vibe, but they over did it a little.

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Yup, that's why I would have liked one moment where he shines, both in terms of bravery (the car scene I wrote), in his love life (not acting so uncomfortable when scoring a date) and in his skills (saving Iron man Against Vulture).

They should have stopped for a second and thought "what are we doing with his character arch"?

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I'm okay with him not getting a date. Peter is supposed to be shy around girls. A big hero moment would have been great. I liked the movie, otherwise.

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"I liked the technology with the suit but it ventured into Iron Man technology too much, especially with the Jarvis A.I. "

This was probably my biggest complaint about the film. Overall I liked the movie but I thought the technology of the suit was a bit much.

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Ironman needs a suit, Spider-Man (historically) only wore a suit as a disguise. So for it to get all high tech is a little against his character. Does a spider need technology? I don't think so.

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There have been rare instances in the comic where he needed special armor or something like that. But to base his entire MCU debut movie on a fringe idea like that is a huge diminishment of the character. And we all know it wasn't done to advance Spider-Man as a character. It was done to slam people over the head with the "Spider-Man is in the MCU" sales pitch and maybe even to sell Iron Man to Spider-Man fans. They know this Sony deal can fall apart at any moment. So they at least got to promote their own universe at Sony's expense. That's why comics have editors and when DC and Marvel did their crossovers, they had explicit contracts saying how their characters had to be portrayed.

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The origin story has been done twice before, and I would have been mad if they did it again. Also, since Spiderman was in the last Avengers movie, it would have been dumb to have the origin story. The movie was very funny, but I think that a lot of the humor went over people's heads. I was the only one laughing at a lot of the jokes. I am also tired of people talking about the diversity in the movie. New York City is very diverse and if you have never been here, you really shouldn't comment on that. It seemed just like NYC and I don't get why it is wrong to show exactly how it is here.

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You're right about diversity. NY is a very diverse place. So is Los Angeles. I remember sitting in a restaurant in santa monica promenade and there were barely any white people at all walking past. I joked 'where did the white people go?' But movies and TV seem to think that throwing in a black character is 'diversity' and they've been doing that for 40 years.

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Good analysis. IMHO, I was okay with skipping the origin story. We've seen it recently in 2 different movies. I was also okay with Ben already being gone (most likely deceased but I don't think it was said).

All your other points were well articulated.

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I agree with most of this.

I did actually like Spider-Man and Iron-Man's interactions. Having Spider-Man save Tony would definitely have been a nice touch, though.

Ned was annoying to me, but he could have been worse.

The twist with the villain being the girlfriend's father was interesting and unpredictable.

Tony made the suit, so it would make sense for him to add all those extra gadgets and stuff. I liked the suit.

I think this was one of the best Spider-Man films, but I've never been a big fan of Spider-Man. It helped to have a young actor, but he could have had a bit more emotion.

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You barely noticed any white people at his school? I wonder if the whole school was white, would you mention the lack of minorities.

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No

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Exactly.

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And you wouldn't mention the lack of white people ever. So what? Is he right that the school didn't have enough white people or not? You social justice twits are just modern day witch hunters, constantly trying to read into people's minds so you can judge them and brand them with a scarlet "R" for racist. You're the modern-day equivalent of the Salem witch hunters or the church lady types from Dana Carvey's SNL skit. You are out to pass judgment on people as being impure for not sharing your painfully stupid ideology. And we hate you for your a-holeism just as much as people hated those judgmental types who acted like their beliefs were "superior" in the past. You are villains and we will fight your arrogance and stupidity every chance we get.

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