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Hang the DJ is such a wonderful story :)


As bleak and totalitarian as the concept seemed initially, it all turned out to be so profoundly romantic!

Who'd have thunk it, "the system" actually knew something after all...

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I agree with you. For me, it was probably one of the best episodes of this season.

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Not one for strong statements, are you? :)

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The title have like absolutely nothin to do with the episode, anyway nice app though

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Yeah, that's true. I googled it, it's just words from a song by The Smiths.

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The song playing in the background at the bar they meet at. But yeah, they could have spent a LITTLE time coming up with a better name. Season 4 seems kinda phoned in.

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It's the best season yet!

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It does, though. "Hang the DJ" is a metaphor - the DJ is the one who controls what music you listen to (the system), and normally you just go along with it. To "hang the DJ" is to defy the system and dance to your own beat.

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Ah, thanks for the explanation, I didn't know there was such a metaphor.

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So they were basically cookies trapped in 1000 simulations to see how many would climb the wall. Felt kind of pointless at the end.

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It was pointFULL. The fact that the same two people keep rebelling against the system despite supposed dire consequences is what makes them each other's "ultimate match".

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But you weren't watching real people the whole time. :) Yes I know we could have an endless debate on what constitutes 'real'.

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It seems to me that in the Black Mirror Universe, you can be happy only if you're in some sort of dating simulation scenario lol. First San Junipero, now this.

Still, it was a great story, even if I felt a bit sad for all the "simulated" people.

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They are real people, though. Cookies in the Black Mirror universe don't have bodies.

I mean, I think it was supposed to be real.

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"Cookies in the Black Mirror universe don't have bodies."

I don't understand this bit.

At the very end it was supposed to be real, yes. But the "people" before that were all simulated, right? It's them I felt a bit sorry for.

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The consciousness that's trapped in something is called a cookie. But it's just consciousness, it doesn't have a body, they can't have sex for instance.

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Now that I saw Black Museum I understand what you're referring to. That episode went a bit meta and made it all seem connected, but I don't think the two have anything to do with eachother.

I don't think the "people" in the System were cookies, but they weren't real either. They were just values in a computer program.

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Have you never seen The Christmas Special?

It has some issues, but it's still worth a watch.

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I saw it 4 years ago, and that's one episode I never re-watched. So I don't remember _anything_ from it lol. I should probably re-watch it now.

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I don't understand this, because they do have sex in the episode... over and over again.

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Yeah, this is why I didn't get from the episode that they are simulated people, but maybe I was wrong.

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Yes, it's my favorite episode of season four so far.


😎

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Within the first five minutes, I expected this episode to be very chick-flicky / romance / drama, whether happy or sad, and my expectation was fulfilled. (I also figured probably more women would like this episode than men. Woman here.) I enjoyed it.

I have so many questions left unanswered about this episode, too.

Also, do you think she REALLY knew that it was just a test? How?

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You mean Amy? No, I don't think she knew for a fact. She may have suspected something since she said she had that feeling like she'd gone through this a thousand times before, but I think in that moment they started climbing the wall they were fully ready to sacrifice everything about life as they knew it.

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It was cute but... Troubling...

Well... Nerds love sex/dating apps as these things allow them to experience human connection in a safe way without rejection... This is geek utopia... This is exactly how humans will be enslaved by machines.., genitals first... 😎

The shocking thing is that the black mirror creators do not seem aware of this and are falling for the siren calls of swip-for-sex...

Also, the San Junipero episode from a season or two ago, which was also a type of relationship virtual reality, is seen as a positive utopian episode where things work out for the protagonist.... BUT... it was thoroughly dystopian and an eternal hell of rejection for all of the other participants who were doomed to get rejected over and over again in the simulation!

I think the writers reached too far in trying to give us a feel good episode and it shows their bias towards sex/relationship apps... Troubling indeed! 😉

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Interesting points Renovatio.

For me, San Junipero was much more clever and unique. This was a solid Black Mirror episode, but not on par with the top third. But heck, that still makes it better than most of what is on TV.

My wife and I asked about mundane things like, do they have jobs? Clothes? How do they live, etc. The stones always skipping 4 times was a heavy-handed clue. I had to admit, I was waiting for a "society fail" ending, not the somewhat lame one they came up with. Not that it was a bad ending per se, but it felt a little anti-climatic.

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Yeah... I agree, but I do think that Black Mirror, as a whole, towers over nearly all other TV shows at the moment...

The only one that is made as well and reaches as high is probably The Crown... Incredible what they've been able to do with such a boring subject, the queen of England 😂

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