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One of the saddest films ever made?


Watched this last night and it's absolutely heartbreaking, a fantastically well made film.

I won't give spoilers but i knew going in based off of the trailer and synopsis that this was going to be a bit of a tear jerker so i was prepared for any manipulation. We know that something has happened to the father and that this is a women reminiscing about a happier memory and when the film Ends initially you can think it's nothing special and not be too impacted.

However the affect of this film hits you in the hours afterwards once you run things through your head and in the same way as the Girl in this film you start piecing together what was really going on under the surface the entire time and once put together the outcome with the moments from the film it will break your heart.

A key word i would use to describe this film is Understated, if you are expecting a big dramatic scene or something to explain whats happening then you won't get it, instead everything is underplayed beautifully but it makes it's points all the more effective.

My personal tip to fully get the affect of this film would be to watch it, let it sit with you for a bit and piece it together and then go back and watch the final 10 minutes again, or even still the whole film again.

This film will live with me for a long time

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I also watched thus yesterday and agree with everything you say. A beautiful film that makes the viewer piece things together gradually - nothing is spelled out. Wonderful, natural performances by both leads. I will say that I didn’t find the brief ‘present day’ scenes to be necessary, but this is a fine movie, and a startlingly confident debut by Charlotte Wells.

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Going into this i didn't have too high hopes, i thought it would be another slow ponderous sentimental that is going out of it's way to get you to cry, seen plenty of those lately.

Even when it finished my instant reaction was probably 6/10 but it got under my skin and really punched me in the gut once i put it all together.

Yes i know the modern day parts we don't really get to know her as well but i think they were necessary as it clues us into a few crucial things, the Rug and the camcorder for a start. Also she is 31 in present day the same age as her father was on holiday so that adds to her understanding and comprehension of what happened.

The one thing i am unsure of is did Callum plan what happened before hand and the trip was a last goodbye happy memory for his daughter or did he come the decision afterwards

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A good point about the clues given during those scenes.

It’s open to interpretation but I don’t think he planned it. I do feel that he was still fighting his losing battle. He probably did realise that every time he said goodbye to Sophie could be for the last time. But Wells wisely and boldly leaves it up to us to interpret the ending.

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I agree as i said the restraint is the best thing about this film, what made me think it was pre planned was the way he was spending his money, money we know he didn't have.

I thought the scene with the Scuba diver was particularly sad, he's talking to a person who has achieved what he desperately wants and there is a realization that will never happen for him

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I agree. Its full impact is felt right after the final cut.

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This movie had no right to be this sad, man :(

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First movie to ever make me genuinely tear up, and more interestingly, it was hours afterwards! On top of everything you said, I think it's really good at making every viewer take something different away, that's unique to their lives and baggage. It's really interesting to read discussions on this movie, and see what scenes stuck with people. Obviously everyone has the big scenes in mind, but then there are smaller random scenes that I hadn't noticed, that had deeply affected someone else.

Meanwhile, I had scenes that stuck with me for various reasons. The biggest was a moment when Calum asked his daughter to turn off the camera, and then the screen goes off and you just see them in the reflection. It's a very well executed scene, but it also hit me hard because I'm someone that's pretty obsessed with recording my life to preserve memories, and I could imagine future Sophie being really upset as the video cut to black, thus only leaving a memory, if even that much.

Another is when Calum tells her that she can always tell her anything. On the surface it's already really sad, because she can't tell him anything after this trip. But it works on a meta level as well, because this movie is being viewed through future Sophie, and the scenes we see are the moments that stuck with her for one reason or another, so that moment stings extra hard once you realize that this memory is probably making her think of bad things that happened later in her life that she wishes she could've shared with her dad.

I'm sure other people came away with similar interpretations, but what's interesting is that most movies would only have this amount of substance to them and no more, and therefore every discussion would pretty much only consist of that. Even some great movies only have a handful of moments that everyone discusses ad nauseum. But this small little movie has so much packed into it, that everyone's experience with it seems to be at least mildly different.

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'but then there are smaller random scenes that I hadn't noticed, that had deeply affected someone else'

Totally and i that is basically the film in that it's all little subtle scenes where nothing much appears to be happening but yet so much is happening. One in particular that has stayed with me for some reason is when he's chatting to the scuba diver, and this inane 1 minute chat says a lot about the main character. he so wanted to be that guy and tried and failed to have something similar and he's not bitter towards him he's just gutted.

The bit that got me going though is the obvious last dance scene but not the cut away rave bits everyone loves but just him forcing himself to get up and dance with his daughter because he knows time is running out and he felt he let her down with the kareoke so desperately wants to leave a lasting memory for his daughter.

As you said lots of people have interpreted the film in different ways the last dance for example i just heard someone say that dancing was his happy place and that scene is him being happy, i don't agree personally but that doesn't make either right.

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For me the mystery isn't whether he killed himself or not i think thats obvious but it's wether he knew on that holiday that he was going to do it, for me it makes it far more tragic if he was planning it and this holiday was a farewell manufactured positive memory his daughter could remember him by and the closer it gets the more we see him break down because he is affraid and doesn't really want to leave his daughter but has already made the decision

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Interesting point about that mystery. Makes you feel sad even about the nice moments they had together.

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Calum planning to kill himself doesn't seem to really jibe with him telling Sophie that she can always confide in him, or with him getting upset about the dropped mask and attempting to dive after it. He was suicidal, but not in the sense of actively killing himself. Instead, he seemed to no longer care whether he lived or died, tempting fate by standing on the balcony railing and by crossing the street without looking (not even when the oncoming bus honked at him). My guess is that he died "accidentally" due to complete disregard for his own safety.

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'but then there are smaller random scenes that I hadn't noticed, that had deeply affected someone else'

Totally and i that is basically the film in that it's all little subtle scenes where nothing much appears to be happening but yet so much is happening. One in particular that has stayed with me for some reason is when he's chatting to the scuba diver, and this inane 1 minute chat says a lot about the main character. he so wanted to be that guy and tried and failed to have something similar and he's not bitter towards him he's just gutted.

The bit that got me going though is the obvious last dance scene but not the cut away rave bits everyone loves but just him forcing himself to get up and dance with his daughter because he knows time is running out and he felt he let her down with the kareoke so desperately wants to leave a lasting memory for his daughter.

As you said lots of people have interpreted the film in different ways the last dance for example i just heard someone say that dancing was his happy place and that scene is him being happy, i don't agree personally but that doesn't make either right.

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For me the mystery isn't whether he killed himself or not i think thats obvious but it's whether he knew on that holiday that he was going to do it,
It's been noted how he is spending money around that he doesn't have on Carpets and such as if ridding himself of his remaining few possessions
for me it makes it far more tragic if he was planning it and this holiday was a farewell manufactured positive memory his daughter could remember him by and the closer it gets the more we see him break down because he is affraid and doesn't really want to leave his daughter but has already made the decision

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