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A+ Cinemascore. First A+ score since The Avengers!!!


I guess audiences LOVED the movie. The audience that actually watched the movie as opposed to those that made accounts to review-bomb the audience scores on certain sites.

Only 2 comic book movies had ever gotten the coverted A+ Cinemascore, and that is The Avengers and The Incredibles. The signs are hot hot hot!!!

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Remarkable. And needles to say, it is the highest rated superhero film of all time (that isn’t The Incredibles) on both Rotten Tomatoes and Metacritic — I can see the crowd woefully dedicated to lowering its audience score at it.

Well done.

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What? People loved the movie? But, but.. bu.. the overhype and the, the politicalization and the SJW and the racists.... snif, sniff... the artificial booster... snif... and the bland critics... nooooooo... But, butttt on Wednesday before release the IMBD had it on 7.6 and, and...

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lol theres goes queens excuses of ......"Umm looks like another TLJ, looks like its gonna be frontloaded and will have weak legs"

its extremely rare to get a "A+" cinemascore....

Black Panthers box office is a mystery at this point....I cant wait to see how this thing is going to perform in the weeks to come....

I'll make the argument, maybe no film ever has the kinda of overwhelmingly positive WOM,Hype and Buzz going for it...

look at these factors...

first BLack Panther Will be coming off this historic and Massive opening...Next Black Panther has some of the Greatest reviews ever for a CBM and Blockbuster, next this film has turned into a "Cultural Event"(theres no telling the impact it could have on BPs legs, Wonder Woman is a good comparison, that movie had a real "Womans movement" behind it and it resulted in the film having incredible legs) and NOw we this "A+" cinemascore, this means WOM is just insane for BP....Cinemascore is the only true way to judge a film WOM...Its the only score based on actual facts....Sites like RT audience scores, IMDB and others are massively swayed by Fan voting.....when a film gets an A+ cinemascore....WOM is simply amazing....

So Black Panther going to be over 200 Million by Monday....and based on these incredible factors that clearly will result in BP having excellent holds.

its truly possible we could be looking at a 500 to 600 Million dollar domestic result for BP....The Avengers and Black Panther at this point should play pretty simlar box office wise, BOth had insane word of mouth....IMO 600 Million is probably a stretch, but 500 Million + or close to 550 M + is very likely, but again the key here is "This cultural Movement" going on...theres no telling just how great that could impact the Legs on BP...

based on BPs excellent reviews and A+ cinemascore, after a 200 M + opening, I would think a 500 Million domestic gross is very likely....but THe "Cultural Impact" factor now brings 600 Million + into play

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its truly possible we could be looking at a 500 to 600 Million dollar domestic result for BP....The Avengers and Black Panther at this point should play pretty simlar box office wise, BOth had insane word of mouth....IMO 600 Million is probably a stretch, but 500 Million + or close to 550 M + is very likely, but again the key here is "This cultural Movement" going on...theres no telling just how great that could impact the Legs on BP...
Even with that type of over the top turnout for BP domestically I just don't see the film performing better in international locations than domestic.

What is the normal % between the two 35% to 65%? That would be an INSANE amount of money. From what you are speculating then BP would do much better domestically than internationally and then you'll see Queen start to harp that the movie failed in that category.

Wonder Woman did a roughly 50/50 and that still would mean that BP would reach $1 Billion even with that split. Yikes!

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the MCU films have a history of doing more Box office overseas than domestically....

but with Black Panther Its probably gonna be close to 50/50ish

as I said yesterday...a 400 Million + overseas gross is a done deal...You thought it would make 300-to 350...

but we've already got enough info to know for sure BP is going to gross over 400 Million+ overseas

BP opened slightly higher than Doctor Strange in most of the Markets...tomorrow numbers will come in and reveal BP made between 100 to 120 Million overseas this weekend(again that Will be slightly ahead of Doctor Strange in the same Markets)....Meaning A 450 Million dollar overseas gross is almost certain...

anything higher depends on Word of mouth overseas...If BP has even close to the type of Audience reaction that its getting Domestically, BP could easily gross over 500 Million Overseas...

but as of now, I'm guaranteeing a 450M Million dollar Gross overseas....It will be become clearer next weekend if a 500 Million dollar gross is possible...

now to domestic....Based on the Great Reviews(Like INSANELY Great), Based on the A + cinemascore, based on the Cultural Impact the film is going to have....HOLDS should be excellent, but at the very least above average...

With Black Panther being over 200 Million by mon......even with just above average holds....were looking at a domestic total of 450 Million +

So what I'm getting at is....the absolute FLOOR for Black Panther is 900 million and that would roughly be a 50/50 split domestically and overseas...

but both domestically and overseas, I see BP performing better, I could see BOTH overseas and domestic total topping 500 Million +

so in this rare case...your wonder Woman example is a great one. BP is going to be the rare MCU film that has almost a 50/50 Spilt

watch out for if BPs overseas numbers are higher than 120 Million this weekend....if they are then overseas gross is probably gonna easily top 500 M....but I expect it to be around 115 Million

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basically BP is guaranteed to make between 900 to 1 Billion +.......YIKES indeed

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the MCU films have a history of doing more Box office overseas than domestically....

but with Black Panther Its probably gonna be close to 50/50ish

as I said yesterday...a 400 Million + overseas gross is a done deal...You thought it would make 300-to 350...

but we've already got enough info to know for sure BP is going to gross over 400 Million+ overseas

BP opened slightly higher than Doctor Strange in most of the Markets...tomorrow numbers will come in and reveal BP made between 100 to 120 Million overseas this weekend(again that Will be slightly ahead of Doctor Strange in the same Markets)....Meaning A 450 Million dollar overseas gross is almost certain...

anything higher depends on Word of mouth overseas...If BP has even close to the type of Audience reaction that its getting Domestically, BP could easily gross over 500 Million Overseas...
In total contrast to he/she who shall not be named... Your thoughts and projections on BP have been pretty darn close. I revisited this topic only because the 50/50 split (even without China) looks to be the performance that will drive $1 Billion. It really looks like BP will gross more Domestic than International by like 52/48. If BP grosses around $520 Million Domestic and International $480 there is your Billion dollar mark and that appears what will happen w/o China.

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So what I'm getting at is....the absolute FLOOR for Black Panther is 900 million and that would roughly be a 50/50 split domestically and overseas...

but both domestically and overseas, I see BP performing better, I could see BOTH overseas and domestic total topping 500 Million +

so in this rare case...your wonder Woman example is a great one. BP is going to be the rare MCU film that has almost a 50/50 Spilt

watch out for if BPs overseas numbers are higher than 120 Million this weekend....if they are then overseas gross is probably gonna easily top 500 M....but I expect it to be around 115 Million
You deserve a bump today because your assessment for BP's Box Office is still pretty solid. After reaching $500 Million domestic and still lacking Russia, Chin and Japan for International results BP will still hit $1 Billion without them.

The Dom/Int split ratio might be higher though. I thought 52/48 but it ight be 55/45. Which some will say speaks to the film's limited appeal in that it draws too heavily on the Domestic Box Office not realizing how difficult it is to have a $1 Billion dollar Box office as an origin film regardless of CW.

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I thought 52/48 but it ight be 55/45
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I'm I'm probably gonna be off on this...

right now it looks like BP is heading toward a 620 to 665 M Domenic Run.

and depending 100% on China, I see its Overseas gross topping out at 600 M(IMO probably less).

I expect BP to perform like similar MCU debuting films like Ant-Man,GOTG and Doctor Strange....I see a 90 to 120 M China gross for BP...But there a lot of people thinking BP isnt going to perform like that in China, I do not follow Chinese Box office near as Closely as Domestic box office...So I cant completely discount BP not performing as well as I expect...

But I think Its safe to assume at an absolute minimum BP is at least going to make 50 M in China, and could go as high as 120 M

If BP does perform like Other MCU films, and makes 120 ish in China....

then were looking at a 620 to 665 M / to 575 to 600 M Domestic/Overseas Split...

at this point my prediction is...

BP has a final domestic Gross between 635 to 660 M and an Overseas gross between 550 to 570 Million

So IMO it will be closer to the 55/45 or slightly larger

Well get a perfect picture this weekend after it opens in China...I'm expecting a 100 + China run...If not, Then were just gonna have to see how much less BP grosses in China

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Avengers was a cheesy tele-movie so I guess Cinemascore is kind of dumb

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Avengers was a cheesy tele-movie so I guess Cinemascore is kind of dumb

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is it normal for you to have such ODD opinions or is this just a one time thing?

of course your more than entitled to your own opinion, but I'm just curious do you find yourself often having opinion that the Majority does not agree with?

I'm just asking based off your Avengers Opinion...Its clear, your opinion is very different from the overwhelming majority, Im just curious if you notice this happening quite often or is just a 1 time deal here?

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Overwhelming majority of consumers are morons

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But of course you're an exception to that, aren't you? YOUR opinions are well-reasoned and borderline factual, while the rest of us are morons unable to tell the quality cinema from the garbage?

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No offence, I saw it at the cinema and thought it was shit (but more power to you if enjoyed it)

However.....

Why do people think that Rotten Tomatoes (or any other online sites) are some kind of benchmark for quality (I'm sure 'SPICE WORLD - THE MOVIE' had it's fair share of great reviews, some paid-for....and some scarily not) but if you need some stupid score on some website to validate your tastes, it comes across as rather 'Sheepish' to me? I constantly see all this 'Rotten Tomatoes' and 'Metacritic' garbage strewn throughout posts around here. It's as if movies (and their fans) are content to have 'dick measuring' contests....based on box-office and (OTHER PEOPLES) collective opinions (and the findings are usually taken probably from the same cross section of people that deem the likes of Simon Cowell oxygen-worthy?) The actual movie (remember that?) comes a long way down the list of importance? Movies are just seen as trading cards around here....Little else.

BP could make $800billion and the box-office (or just $4) it wouldn't alter how I feel about it....shit is shit.

Rant over

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