So, it was the tape that killed them? Or the tape allowed poison to come in the suit?
The "green Earth" with the birds was being projected into the helmet, but when the Mayor reset the computers it was projected on the window?
>The "green Earth" with the birds was being projected into the helmet, but when the Mayor reset the computers it was projected on the window?
Best answer I've heard regarding that is that it was a glitch that somehow accidently projected the camera green screen to the feed.
But why should be there a show green field function in the first place? That made no sense to me.
shareTo trick the people who went outside to "clean" the windows, as they will believe it's actually safe
Then they die
They die anyway because the tape they use to seal the suits disintegrates because of the atmosphere. That is why the old lady switched the tape before she went out.
By the way, I cannot find the comment you made about how gays are treated in Russia. Here is something to think about:
Christian hate-preacher Robert Larson says that gay people who have sex "should get the electric chair" because it's "a little more painful" than lethal injection.
https://twitter.com/hemantmehta/status/1755739395586466025
>Christian hate-preacher Robert Larson says that gay people who have sex "should get the electric chair" because it's "a little more painful" than lethal injection.
https://twitter.com/hemantmehta/status/1755739395586466025
Awful.
Is Robert Larson a representative? Does the USA have a law like that on the books for LGBT people?
Societies do not change fast, or due to what is right or wrong, and you cannot force people to change. Politicians all over the world take advantage of people's prejudices to manipulate them. Look at gays in Iran.
I think for the purposes of demonizing Russia the gay pride thing is just not powerful or persuasive however we might agree on its immorality.
Russia is degenerating here, not progressing. This isn't even about judging a country slowly changing for the better, but not quick enough.
>I think for the purposes of demonizing Russia the gay pride thing is just not powerful or persuasive however we might agree on its immorality.
There are seriously homophobic people in the USA, never said there weren't - but Russia is the country with the "LGBT extremism" and "LGBT propaganda" laws, and not the USA.
> Russia is the country with the "LGBT extremism" and "LGBT propaganda" laws, and not the USA.
They're macho. That's too bad, and they will naturally grow out of that given time and undrestanding, but not a reason to go to war against or try to destroy Russia. As cultures and civilizations go, Russia is close enough to Western civilization that it made very goddamn little sense to provoke it over Ukraine's Crimea especially given the history there - and even to lose and destroy the country.
I assume you heard the quotes from many Americans about how it is worth it to hurt Russia. Talk about immorality, getting someone, actually forcing someone to fight your fights for you and getting killed the process and destroy another country is about as bad as one can get - and that is on America for exchewing negotiations and provoking war. And that is essentially what happened.
>They're macho. That's too bad, and they will naturally grow out of that given time and undrestanding, but not a reason to go to war against or try to destroy Russia. As cultures and civilizations go, Russia is close enough to Western civilization that it made very goddamn little sense to provoke it over Ukraine's Crimea especially given the history there - and even to lose and destroy the country.
I didn't say the USA should go to war with them because of it. No-one wants to "destroy the country".
I just noted on it because you rightfully spit fire about human rights abuses in the Islamic world but seem to have nothing to say about the severe backsliding in Russia.
>I assume you heard the quotes from many Americans about how it is worth it to hurt Russia. Talk about immorality, getting someone, actually forcing someone to fight your fights for you and getting killed the process and destroy another country is about as bad as one can get - and that is on America for exchewing negotiations and provoking war. And that is essentially what happened.
Geopolitically if Russia walks into a rake, as with Ukraine, it does make sense for US to do that geopolitically. That's the context in which it is said.
>I didn't say the USA should go to war with them because of it. No-one wants to "destroy the country".
Yet, that has been the result, and there is no victory.
Russia is not destroyed, nor is the USA at war with them.
shareRussia indeed is not destroyed, but that is not for lack of effort. If we could we would - and that puts Russia on its "back foot" having to fight to defend itself from Ukraine which never would have done anything like this if the US has not interfered and forced its hand.
So, yes, we are at war with Russia.
We differ in opinions on that. You are wrong.
If the US could "destroy" Iran, it would. If the USA could thanos snap the CCP, it would. I really don't get your point here. Beyond the USA suddenly gaining superpowers, there's no desire to launch troops into Russia.
shareThat is non-responsible to the subject.
shareThere is no serious desire or even capability for the USA to move troops into attack Russia, so whatever the administration "thinks" or would like to do is irrelevant.
No-one wants to destroy Russia. Would we like the administration to change? Sure.
We keep threatening to put our troops or NATO's into Ukraine. Do you follow this at all or just burn the NYT/WaPo headlines into your brain. Or you're just lying about what you know to be wrong.
The problem with Russia is sort of an analog to the problem we face as Americans. The choices push people to vote in a divisive way. Russian vote for Putin because they believe he has upped their living standard, and the numbers bear that out, brought honor or respect to Russia, and people are living longer than they did when the US broke promises to Russia for aid in development of a market economy that left the country in a disaster. They are afraid to vote for anyone else, because unlike our two doddering choices, Putin can actually think and talk intelligently on his feet for as long as it takes.
In America both sides are terrified of each other. A vast majority of Americans want someone other than both those guys, but we're stuck. You call that an admirable democracy?
>We keep threatening to put our troops or NATO's into Ukraine. Do you follow this at all or just burn the NYT/WaPo headlines into your brain. Or you're just lying about what you know to be wrong.
When was this threatened specifically?
>The problem with Russia is sort of an analog to the problem we face as Americans. The choices push people to vote in a divisive way. Russian vote for Putin because they believe he has upped their living standard, and the numbers bear that out, brought honor or respect to Russia, and people are living longer than they did when the US broke promises
That and that Putin over the last 20 years has overseen the destruction of pluralism in Russia, arresting and disqualifying and murdering dissidents, and taming all competing political parties.
>In America both sides are terrified of each other. A vast majority of Americans want someone other than both those guys, but we're stuck. You call that an admirable democracy?
I don't recall ever calling the USA an "admirable democracy".
> When was this threatened specifically?
Look it up. If you think it is a lie, so be it. Even if I spoon-feed you, you do the same BS-2-step as the rabid De-Public-ans here do.
I'd recommend you to read some of the Hidden History books by Thom Hartman, or the book War Against the Weak: Eugenics and America's Campaign to Create a Master Race by Edwin Black.
You are a newb to historic reality. Before WWII the US had segregation that the Nazis were interested in and was using eugenics to justify racial genocide. Our corporations were trading with Hitler even during the war. You either look for the truth critically, or you just stop thinking and go with the flow or undemocratic sewage.
> I don't recall ever calling the USA an "admirable democracy".
Oh, well, then you must think there are much better uses for 200 billion $$ in our country than blowing up Ukraine.
>Look it up. If you think it is a lie, so be it. Even if I spoon-feed you, you do the same BS-2-step as the rabid De-Public-ans here do.
No. You make the claims. You back it up.
>You are a newb to historic reality. Before WWII the US had segregation that the Nazis were interested in and was using eugenics to justify racial genocide. Our corporations were trading with Hitler even during the war. You either look for the truth critically, or you just stop thinking and go with the flow or undemocratic sewage.
US policy in the 1930s is not US policy 2020s. A good thing I was not justifying segregation or eugenics.
> I just noted on it because you rightfully spit fire about human rights abuses in the Islamic world but seem to have nothing to say about the severe backsliding in Russia.
The big difference there is in the Islamic world there is a brutal totalitarianism mixed with religion and enforced with pain and death. There is a massive difference. In today's Russia religion, multiple religions are tolerated - and some dissent as well. It is open enough to the West and human behavior and ideas that not only was Tucker Carlson allowed to open-interview Putin, but Russians were allowed to see it. It was not set up. It was not propaganda in that sense.
It is interesting that I just happened to be watching "Three Body" episodes 10 & 11 and though they talk about China, I am utterly amazed at how vicious, inhuman and wrong they show Mao's regime to be, and the effect on Chinese citizens and their families. I never thought China would allow something like that, let alone export it to the West.
There is dissent like that in Russia. They do not indoctrine their children into war and hate as the core Islamic Republic's societies do - nowhere near. They murder what they call apostates.
If you think Russia is like that you are very much mistaken, and if you cannot see the difference in what I said you are either wrong, or pretending.
>The big difference there is in the Islamic world there is a brutal totalitarianism mixed with religion and enforced with pain and death.
How do you think Russia's laws are enforced? Russia is rapidly becoming a totalitarian state.
>There is a massive difference. In today's Russia religion, multiple religions are tolerated - and some dissent as well.
Russia bans separatism. Russia bans criticising the "special military operation". Russia bans "offending religious sensitivities" (however they term it). Russia bans "LGBT propaganda" and "LGBT extremism". Russia bans insulting authorities. Russia has, over the years, found reasons to arrest or even kill almost all notable critics. There is no independent media left in Russia. It has all gone into exile.
They have a "foreign agent" law designed to stifle dissent: https://www.youtube.com/watch?
>It is open enough to the West and human behavior and ideas that not only was Tucker Carlson allowed to open-interview Putin
Tucker Carlson was permitted because he is a useful idiot who was going to softball Putin and let him prattle on about Ukrainian and Russian history (or his specific interpretation of) for an hour.
>It is interesting that I just happened to be watching "Three Body" episodes 10 & 11 and though they talk about China, I am utterly amazed at how vicious, inhuman and wrong they show Mao's regime to be, and the effect on Chinese citizens and their families. I never thought China would allow something like that, let alone export it to the West.
Are you now going to simp for the PRC?
Are you remotely familiar with the scale of PRC censorship and intimidation and harassment of critics?
>There is dissent like that in Russia. They do not indoctrine their children into war and hate as the core Islamic Republic's societies do - nowhere near. They murder what they call apostates.
Is this a joke? Russia has become incredibly militaristic and jingoistic since the "special military operation". They literally had firebrand orthodox fanatics ranting on about nuclear war.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BOswv8c3QVE
Here's a video about how Russian schools have changed: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QeAlklcXPdY
> How do you think Russia's laws are enforced? Russia is rapidly becoming a totalitarian state.
I think you are reading the news and the history books backwards. Russia is getting less totalitarian. The Tucker Carlson interview in the West and in Russian shows that. It would have never happened before.
You are not sounding like a real person any more, you're sounding like a shill for US propaganda even you know is wrong.
I'm just trying to determine to point it out and ask to what extent.
Clearly any intelligent person knows that Russia has no designs on Europe. Is the issue is allowing an authoritarian government like Russia is, we agree on that, into the EU and as was discussed NATO. Why did we let Turkey in?
Your arguments don't add up. ( no matter how long winding and irrelevant you make them or how many links you insert )
By the way the Republicans are trying to change our schools too by vilifying a free education with critical thinking by calling it Critical Race Theory.
>I think you are reading the news and the history books backwards. Russia is getting less totalitarian. The Tucker Carlson interview in the West and in Russian shows that. It would have never happened before.
"less totalitarian" because they invited the puppet for an interview?
You do know the "LGBT propaganda" law literally came into law a month ago, right? "less totalitarian". What a joke.
>You are not sounding like a real person any more, you're sounding like a shill for US propaganda even you know is wrong.
Respond to my points. Watch my videos. What "propaganda" have I uttered here? What is incorrect about the assertions I've made?
>Clearly any intelligent person knows that Russia has no designs on Europe.
Do we? How do we know this?
>Is the issue is allowing an authoritarian government like Russia is, we agree on that, into the EU and as was discussed NATO. Why did we let Turkey in?
Turkey wasn't as authoritarian when they were originally let in. They have backslided. So has Hungary. Neither state would likely pass the requirements of entry now.
>By the way the Republicans are trying to change our schools too by vilifying a free education with critical thinking by calling it Critical Race Theory.
I know. That's wrong too. But Russia is much worse on every level. Did you bother to click any of the links I sent you?
> "less totalitarian" because they invited the puppet for an interview?
This is insulting when I take time to reply to you in honest arguments. FU
> But Russia is much worse on every level.
Maybe so, but not enough to destroy Ukraine over it, dipwit.
Let me amend that - Maybe so, but not enough to destroy Ukraine over it without an actual explanation to the American people.
Dipwit.
>This is insulting when I take time to reply to you in honest arguments. FU
I don't really give a fuck what insults you.
>Maybe so, but not enough to destroy Ukraine over it, dipwit.
Right, but I was querying why you seem to completely overlook Russia's problems but shake your fist at the Islamic world. It's completely disingenuous.
Ukraine has nothing to do with it. Russia invaded Ukraine and won stupid prizes.
> I don't really give a fuck what insults you.
Yep, you are a dishonest and lying discussion participant. You always get nasty when you've lost a debate.
> I was querying why you seem to completely overlook Russia's problems but shake your fist at the Islamic world. It's completely disingenuous.
It's not and I explained why.
And yes, like a Republican when you lost you coda back to the same BS thing - "Russia invaded Ukraine"
Bot.
>Yep, you are a dishonest and lying discussion participant. You always get nasty when you've lost a debate.
You're the person who has ignored almost all of my points and resroted to hurling insults.
>It's not and I explained why.
No, you've special pleaded and made excuses.
>And yes, like a Republican when you lost you coda back to the same BS thing - "Russia invaded Ukraine"
What does Russia invading Ukraine have to do with their shitty human rights record?
> Geopolitically if Russia walks into a rake, as with Ukraine, it does make sense for US to do that geopolitically. That's the context in which it is said.
That is BS. The US put that rake right under Russia's foot to further your analogy.
Now, I assume there was a reason for that, but the reasons we get in our media are BS as well.
This kind of brainwashing of the public is comensurate with Russia and China though our countries are different and lifestyles are better in the West. This brings in a whole different political conversation, but I think even you might reason that the purpose of the US-Ukraine proxy war against Russia is not to uplift Russians lifestyles.
You are defending it, so please explain why?
>That is BS. The US put that rake right under Russia's foot to further your analogy.
If that is true, and that's highly debateable - that makes Russia out to be genuine morons completely walking into obvious traps.
>You are defending it, so please explain why?
Russia is free to leave Ukraine at any time. They decided to invade Ukraine. No-one made Putin do this.
> If that is true, and that's highly debateable
If you think that is debatable it is because you are not informed.
> that makes Russia out to be genuine morons completely walking into obvious traps.
Russia had to respond or it would have been far more vulnerable to an attack on Crimea.
The rest of what you say is standard Pentagon propganda fare.
You are disingenuously and like a total pussy supporting war against Russia by proxy, disguise and propaganda.
>If you think that is debatable it is because you are not informed.
Not an argument.
>Russia had to respond or it would have been far more vulnerable to an attack on Crimea.
Respond to *what*? You think Ukraine would've risked directly attacking a nuclear power?
>You are disingenuously and like a total pussy supporting war against Russia by proxy, disguise and propaganda.
No argument of course.
You should just fuck off if you think you're going to somehow make a Kremlin simp out of me. I have no interest in flagellating Putin's regime.
They die anyway because the tape they use
Yeah but theyd do that without cleaning the windows if not for the green illusion.