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How are you not outraged?


So, I don't know what was worse about this movie - the fact that the "teacher" got away with treating everyone like garbage, the terrible things these children were exposed to, the corrupt teachers (all of them), or the fact that the drug abusing teacher gets away with everything in the end.

1. How was she not reported? She was a foul ***** to everyone - funny for the first 2 seconds, but got real old real fast.

2. The stuff this woman exposed those children to - her drug abuse, the movie watching instead of doing actually homework, and finally cheating in the end - she ruined everyone of those children.

3. Teachers smoking pot in the gym. Everyone of those people were trash. The only decent teacher is rewarded with - what's this? - she's framed for being a drug user! How funny! So funny I forgot to laugh.

4. So, in the end, she gets away with everything. The decent teacher is sent to a terrible school. And everyone lives happily ever after. She continues to be a snob. Without the proper rehab she will continue to be a drug user. And those children will suffer.

Um... is this supposed to be a comedy? Because it isn't funny at all. How can any parent of any public school attending children be amused by this? This is a shame. It should have never been made into a movie.

It is a sad portrayal of the public school system. I hope this isn't how public schools really are nowadays...? If this was a male teacher abusing little girls, would it still be funny?

I think the people who made this film should be ashamed of themselves. I think the public education system should pull out a lawsuit for this. Is this really what America is all about now? If the teachers are corrupt, what chance do your children have?

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Wow, are you really analyzing a comedy?

1. it's a comedy
2. it's a comedy
3. it's a comedy
4. The "decent teacher" was a nut job anyway. No loss there.

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"It is a sad portrayal of the public school system. I hope this isn't how public schools really are nowadays...?"

....are you serious?



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*Cough* spoiler alert much? It's not a great movie, but I know saying this will attract alot of haters but what they hey here goes. I thought it was a lot funnier than other movies which came out that year, Bridesmaids for one, which I couldn't bare. Chris O'Dowd was the only one I watched it for anyways.

"Stop looking at the walls, look out the window." ~ Karl Pilkington On Art

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I'm so sick of the "It's just a movie" or "It's a comedy" defense. If you use that, you better actually mean that there is absolutely NOTHING in a movie/comedy that would bother you. Are you saying that even if there was a comedy about a Nazi death camp officer who burns prisoners alive, and those scenes are supposed to be funny and the Nazi is supposed to be an outrageous but quirky, lovable character, you would defend it? If you saw someone posting against that, would you tell them to lighten up because it's just a movie?

If not, then you don't even believe what you are saying. What you really mean is that you don't AGREE that this movie was offensive. So stick to the topic and explain WHY you think it's okay without using a cop-out like "It's just a movie."

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ToonsNTeases:
I hope you never get to see an episode of "Hogan's Heroes".
You'll see through the madcap fun of the prisoners getting up to who-knows what, the buffoon Sergeant and the incompetent Commandant.
There'll be no funny business for you.
You'll be preoccupied by the thought that, just over the horizon, there could be a death camp; or that, somewhere over the other horizon, thousands of Allied soldiers are dying on the beaches at Normandy. You'll be gratified by the thought that Colonel Clink is soon to be captured and tried as a war criminal and that Schultz will soon be a prisoner of war himself.

That is, if it were real.

You see, some films are based on reality and accurately presented. Documentaries come to mind, or historical dramas. Other films are pure fantasy, like Cinderella, but they have clear moral themes. Yet other films are meant to horrify, shock, make you cheer, make you cry, inspire you... and so on.

Other things are just meant to be fun, like Bad Teacher. It's a little satirical, sure, but it's mainly intended to make you laugh. The school is supposed to be your typical high school. Most of the other teachers are bland and common. It is within this stereotypical environment that the monotypical characters are presented. Diaz is supposed to look good and act funny; the other hard-working teacher is supposed to look silly and ideological.

It's not that hard to laugh at something presented to you on a screen, especially when the producer of the film intended for you to do exactly that.

Or maybe it is that hard.

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yolhanson, you did not address the main question I posed in my post. Do you believe that literally "anything goes" when it comes to comedies? As long as the director intends for a movie to be a comedy, is there absolutely NOTHING that can appear on screen that would make you say "woah, that's out of line?" Unless your answer is yes, you have no business using the "It's not real, it's just a movie" argument.

Your Hogan's Heroes example was way off-topic (and somewhat of a straw-man argument) because you're telling me that I'd be imagining scenes that are not even shown on screen. I've shown no tendency to do such a thing, so you're quite wrong about that.

You're jumping to conclusions, imagining me as some sort of goody-goody who wants everyone to be nice in movies/TV. You'd probably be surprised to know that I'm a fan of South Park and usually would defend its content because of the way the humor is slanted. South Park's humor is brilliantly done...we're not supposed to be laughing at the situation as much as the psychology of the masses that is represented on the show. We're not supposed to be on Cartman's side, we're supposed to be laughing AT him, and there are no cute attempts to redeem Cartman like there were at the end of this atrocious movie.

I watch plenty of movies that are meant to horrify, shock, etc. and have no problem laughing because the filmmakers know how to present the material properly. The audience needs to be able to KEEP its own, real-life values but still laugh at the shocking material for some other reason. It's not the CONTENT that makes a film offensive or non-offensive, it's the filmmakers' treatment of that content. Bad Teacher failed in this regard.

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Toons wrote:
"I'm so sick of the "It's just a movie" or "It's a comedy" defense. If you use that, you better actually mean that there is absolutely NOTHING in a movie/comedy that would bother you."

If I say "this is just a movie", then I'm likely to say the same about any movie. That seems to be the guts of your argument.

There is no logic to this assertion at all. Why does a declaration that "this is just a movie" mean that the person would be unbothered by anything at all in a movie.

To be clear:
"It's just a movie/comedy"
does not mean
"There is absolutely NOTHING in a movie/comedy that would bother (me)".

I can find Hogan's Heroes funny ("It's just a TV show"), yet I am appalled by the character of Amon Goeth in Schindler's List ("Oh dear, this happened in real life--it's NOT just a movie"). I'm intelligent enough to know the difference.
As another poster said above, I'd be appalled if a film treated child sexual abuse in a dismissive manner. That's something that would "bother" me, every time. I can't imagine sitting through such a film.

So, I can say "It's just a movie" in many cases, while at the same time realising that I am actually bothered (extremely bothered) by other movies.


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One of the points about ToonsNTeases reasoning is the fact that anyone can turn the "It's just a movie, lighten up," justification on anyone else. The original poster's zealous argument was met by a lot of replies of calling the original poster a prude, Puritan, etc. who needed to lighten up because "Bad Teacher" is "just a movie." However, this phrase can be thrown around making one's justification the ammunition against that very same person.

You said that you would be bothered by some topics being taken lightly in movies, but someone else could rightfully use that very same justification of "It's just a movie," to trample over your regard for the handling of the said topics. Even if it were not a movie about based on a real happening, like "Schindler's List," horrible things do happen in movies and are taken lightly, and someone could rightfully tell you to lighten up because it is just a movie. You might find it ridiculous and argue about the difference of this and that, but overall the person does have a point since it technically is a movie.

ToonsNTeases questions universality of this phrase. To what extent that those who use it as justification of others' emotions for a movie/scene? Common sense may seem like a legit factor for justification, but common sense is not uniform at all. It varies from upbringing, society, gender, nationality, race, class, experience, etc. Not that some groups are less sensible than others, but for instance consider that the common sense of a seasoned hiker bringing a mirror on a hike might not be the common sense of a recreational hiker. So the justification of "It's just a movie," can be rightfully thrown around regardless of "common" sense.

I'm not trying to put words in her/his mouth, but it seems to me that ToonsNTeases just wanted these people to give more thought into their reasoning instead of using a cliche that only seems to work when one wants it to. "What you really mean is that you don't AGREE that this movie was offensive. So stick to the topic and explain WHY you think it's okay without using a cop-out like 'It's just a movie.'"

The original poster made some statements that could have been discussed much better than they have been but most of the people who responded. Now he/she will stick to the her/his opinion even more because of the environment of attack and no education. I know that this is the internet, and no I am not uptight or "butt-hurt," I'm not some old person not keen to the current world either. I'm being real. So many people do have a tendency to say all kinds of audaciously offensive things behind the anonymity of the monitor that they will never even think of saying in real life. There's no need for that, and it is downright stupid. The internet is what we, the users, make it.

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Thank you, SkillyWiggler, I'm glad someone comprehended the point I was making.

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Of course everything goes. the result might not be funny, but thats beside the point, if we want interesting movies i think it would be harmfull to censor certain topics because they might be in poor taste.

Schindlers list is okay because it treats its topic with seriousness? Its still a movie, an object of entertainment.
I hate to burst your bubble, but your not in any way stopping prejudice or honoring the lives lost at the death camps, au contraire, youre believing a piece of film to be more than its product, wich is a dangerous thing to do.
The people on screen are beeing paid to dress up as jews and nazis, and you are sitting, watching, entertained, if this moral boundary exists, we crossed the line a long time a go.

Its easyer to watch when the movie treats its subject matter serious, but it does not really make any difference.
Movie making does not have to be a moral activity, neither does movie watching.
We should be thankfull whenever something comes along that cause an emotional response, and not be so preoccupied with labeling it as "good" or "bad".

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Why be outraged?This is not to be taken seriously,lighten up.

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> How are you not outraged?

- Because I'm not indoctrinated with political correctness
- Because it's a harmless comedy
- Because I'm not over sensitive
- Because I have a sense of humour
- Because taking offense over a mild film is silly


Well said. I find people in this day & age are alot more easily offended by cussing and sex than they are with violence. Which is just insane when you think about it.

"Stop looking at the walls, look out the window." ~ Karl Pilkington On Art

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Hey OP, Tipper Gore called and wants you to join her. She said she needs more ultra-Liberal Femi-nazi nanny staters to tell everybody what is acceptable and ok to watch.

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I wasn't outraged because this was a parody.

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