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50 minutes in and this is just too obvious


- Ben Kingsley telling DiCaprio that he likes to humor his patients by acting according to their beliefs in order to understand them better
- DiCaprio telling lots of far fetched stories about himself
- DiCaprio suggesting there is an extra patient they haven't accounted for
- Despite being marshals assigned to investigate, they aren't allowed to know any more about these patients than anyone else
- Lots of convenient reasons as to why they can't leave the Island
- And now they're in patient uniforms

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Even without these obvious clues, it would've been obvious based on how many mind-benders it was ripping off.

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You seem to be congratulating yourself for noticing something that the film hardly tries to hide. It’s concerned with far more than some surface-level ‘twist’.

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The movie hardly tried to hide the twist because it was incompetently executed, not because it was doing it on purpose.

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No, the ‘twist’ is heavily telegraphed throughout, right from the beginning in fact. All you’ve done is embarrass yourself and provide an example of Dunning-Kruger.

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Like most of the people who mindlessly pick up terms from the highly specialized field of psychology off the internet (lemme guess--Reddit? 4chan? Wikipedia?), you have no idea what Dunning-Kruger is. At all. I bet you you're also one of these fools who goes around diagnosing people as "being on the autistic spectrum", too, as if you were a clinical psychiatrist with decades of research and credentials under your belt.

That's the problem with the internet. It's democratized things to such an extent that ignoramuses who've never picked up a psychology, medical or political science book a day in their lives think they understand terms just by virtue of stumbling across them on Wikipedia or hearing other monkeys on social media casually throw it around.

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Mindless guff, all of that.

No, you’re a Dunning-Kruger case because you’re incapable of recognising competence. You’re unable to appreciate Scorsese and his work in Shutter Island because you simply don’t have the wetware to absorb it, much like if an animal were to watch one of his films.

You don’t realise that Scorsese telegraphed the ‘twist’ from the beginning entirely deliberately, adding clues right from start which he didn’t have to, but chose to.

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I had it figured out when I bought my tickets. But I still watched it knowing the whole plot.

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Please, I had it figured out before they even wrote it.

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There’s actually a double twist. Teddy really wasn’t Andrew Laedis. He was right the whole time.

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That makes no sense; why is the shrink his partner, then? Why would his gun suddenly transform to a toy gun without him noticing? Why would he be able to see and hear his gun being shot, if it's a toy gun?

Why would he see that woman in the cave, since she's not real? What's with the migraines and bright lights, if he was right 'the whole time'?

Why would they treat him so kindly and let him do all that without trying to stop him, if he's right all the time? Why wouldn't they just put him in the ferry and tell him he's banned from the island, if he's an actual cop? Wouldn't there BE those 'brain operations' going on in the lighthouse, if he's right? How come the 'partner that fell to his death' is still alive in the end, if he's right?

Try again.. or rather, don't. This movie doesn't deserve it, it's just a cheap, failed copy of Memento, which isn't that brilliant to begin with.

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