MovieChat Forums > Wish (2023) Discussion > Magnifico is not even in the wrong in th...

Magnifico is not even in the wrong in this


Asha goes for a job interview to be his apprentice and he really likes her. Then she gets pissy because he says he won't grant all the wishes and only the ones that are good for Rosas.

Then the King says he won't grant her grandpa's wish because it's too vague and might lead to conflict. Again, the responsibility of a leader. His wish is to 'inspire the next generation', which the king fears might be interpreted as inciting a coup, which ironically he's proven right about. Instead he grants the wish of some lady who wants to make dresses for all the children of the kingdom. Asha gets even more pissy. What a lovable protagonist.

Then Asha wishes vaguely for "something more." Star comes down, and the king's concerned this ball of light dropping from the sky might pose a threat to his people (a logical assumption). He goes through his library for an answer, saying the whole time that he wants to protect the kingdom. Still doing absolutely nothing immoral.

Then Asha and her friends band together with the queen to overthrow him because he uses a spellbook to try and restore order to the kingdom. All the kingdom's people, despite being content, wish really hard for him to be taken away. He's banished into a magic mirror which his wife has the ability to release him from, but she chooses not to and locks it in a basement for eternity.

reply

He was wrong for being a white male and saying no to a black female.

reply

Really? Is that your standard?

reply

It's Disney's standard.

reply

Yesterday the CEO said they will stop injecting identity politics into their movies.

reply

I don't believe him.

reply

Me neither.

reply

It is the typical power corrupts trope. His family and former home country got destroyed, so he is totally afraid of it happening again. That's why he build up the new country and he wanted to protect it. It was never 100% clear why he wanted the wishes really (I first thought as source of power, but this comes only later into play), so it should be basically to take their biggest wish, so they are never craving for revolution (or anything other better). It worked out for him to create the wonderful kingdom, but Asha is also right, that it is not all his to take and not even planning to give it back. He got corrupt, seeing everywhere basically danger, even from a 100 year old man. If he had not been so stubborn, he could have done good for the people (granting them their wish when they latest reach their xth birthday) and still be a king. Instead he wanted to protect it at all cost, even by using a book, he is fully aware of it is not good. He get then consumed by the book and becomes a clear dictator to his people (consuming their dreams, if they just get on his nerves).
This is not the story of any old white dude, but likely any person with too much power.

reply

I think from what I read so far is that the king use his power to grant wishes, which is really kind of him.

And people start to think they are entitled, start to think they are owed.

The people are horrible. They turned against him and banished him.

The end.

reply

It is the dreams of others, which he claim to just save keep, but instead he keep them to keep the people under control. It is shown that people losing their wish lose their drive and are less energetic.
To compare it: Would you be ok, if you want to get your 1000$ from your bank, but the bank says: NO, you might spent it on a weapon and kill people - even if you have no track record of any crime.

reply

They do not have to go to the king and have their wishes granted.

Did the king take their wishes against their will?

reply

I just finished watching it and enjoyed it. There’s been a lot of backlash on Youtube, even before the movie was released, from people who assumed that it woud be just one more in the growing list of Disney’s failures.
The script the animators were given to work with could have been far better. In particular, the lyrics of some of the songs were quite cringeworthy. (I’ve seen it suggested that Artificially Intelligence may have contributed to their composition. That’s quite plausible!) Yet the animators did a marvellous job of conveying convincing emotional reactions through the gestures and facial expressions of the CGI characteters.
A lot of people seem to have misunderstood the message conveyed by the basic plot, claiming that having everyone’s wishes granted is not a “good thing” and so in the beginning the king was “right” and that Asha was “wrong” to rebel against him. Those people have missed the point. My interpretation is that in the beginning the king was a “benign dictator” who “meant well” but was infantilizing his subjects. When Asha opposed him he became an evil dictaror. I believe, as did Asha, that the “wishes” (aspirations) of free individuals are things they strive to achieve through their own efforts, not things “those in authority“ have any right to manipulate. The “moral” of the fable has obvious parallels in the real world.

reply