there are a ton of factors contributing to JLs box office Disaster, A truly awful Marketing(Maybe one of the worst I've ever seen) and Unprecedentedly Bad Production(almost has bad as Fantastic For 2015), Mustache Gate.But by far the single thing that crippled JL was BvS
I believe even if everything went Positive(Like Wonder Woman Positive) If JL got Great Reviews, had no production problems.I think JL still would have Drastically under performed and made maybe around 115 to 125 Million.I just think there was such a Large Portion of the audience that were simply OUT after BvS.that ONLY Snyder being fired and New Director,creative team and most importantly NEW HOPE would have brought them back for a JL sequel
at this point, if you really understand the film industry, and understand what happened here..BvS has to be considered the biggest Creative failure in Hollywood history and may in fact be the biggest box office failure in Hollywood history, And when I say Box office failure I dont mean failure based on what the film itself made, I mean box office Failure because It literally CRIPPLED a potential 1.5 Billion dollar movie in JL and potentially lost WB 4 to 5 Billion in at least 3 JL Films..a JL sequel and franchise is absolutely DEAD now.JL can not have a sequel or go forward for at least 7 years. to have a JL film NOW WB has to reboot,recast and reboot the complete DCU.They also need to make a BUNCH of good DC movies before to gain Audiences Trust back.to really go forward with a another JL film.
over the next 10 years, WB needs to reboot and recast Batman and Superman, They need to release at least 1 Critically and commercially successful Batman and Superman film with new actors in the roles, and They got to wait until they make at least 2 more Wonder Woman sequels with Gadot in the role finishing her trilogy, Wonder Woman was so successful WB, as to ride its success
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billbrown7071 (3193)
6 years ago
they got to make at least 2 more Wonder Woman films that are strictly solo films that have nothing to do with other DC characters
then They can recast Wonder Woman in A JL movie With The new actors from The successful rebooted Batman and Superman movies.....
thats what WB is looking at....almost a decade of rebooting and recasting and hoping They can make good movies that can gain audiences trust back that would then make it possible for them to make another JL film....
^That is what BvS and Snyder did to WB....
also WB is clearly at fault here, They had no clue what to do, no plan or vision for A DCU, They saw the success of The Avengers and wanted in on the Success of A Cinematic universe, But had no idea how to do it or had any vision at all, and unfortunately that Lead WB to turn to a man with The completely wrong vision, but a vision none the less...
but there is simply no excuse for WB going forward with Snyder after BvS....WB deserves their fate after that move...
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THX1138 (34)
6 years ago
The problem was the writer Terrio, not Snyder. Were the visuals, the direction, FX.. bad? NO. The problem was the story and the writing. With a good script with a good story Snyder could make a good movie.
Justice League has the same problem, it's the same writer.
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actionkamen (23176)
6 years ago
I agree with ALL of your points.
They also catastrophically ruined Batman, Superman, Lex Luthor and the Joker characters as bad as what Batman & Robin did in the '90s.
From now on they should not touch those characters, not even with recast actors. The characters themselves were already spoiled. Broken beyond repair. Only time will heal them.
Cancel The Batman solo movie and The Joker origin movie. Nobody would want them anymore now.
I'll also add that they should recast Flash and Cyborg. Or better, distance themselves from these characters for awhile. Only Aquaman's actor is reedemable. But please delay the Aquaman solo movie and remove all the Justice League residues from the movie first.
That said, I'm looking forward for Wonder Woman SOLO sequels, and as you said, with not a single Justice League foreshadowing (again) at all.
They desperately need to find other iconic characters to make a movie of. I can't think of one though. Plastic Man? Nightwing? Swamp Thing?
Or maybe Batgirl. Along with Wonder Woman, that would make WB/DC the most progressive studio in term of feminism.
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