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Why he wouldn't starve to death... Am I wrong? What do you think?

posted 8 years ago by robertdeaniii-1
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Does he live or die? What's more likely?

I see a lot of talk about Caleb living or dying. Well, what's more likely? What's obvious? Caleb, Mr. Popular, is supposed to return to work. He doesn't. His location is known. There would be attempts to contact both Caleb and Nathan. When the attempts failed the matter would be investigated promptly. Why? Nathan is too important to his corporation. He's the brains behind the most powerful web search engine in the world. Even if we assume Nathan's a recluse the unsuccessful attempts to contact Caleb would worry the corporation regarding Nathan's wellbeing. But how long would it take for someone to reach the estate? Would a warrant be needed to open the sealed doors? Does Caleb have access to food? Caleb does have access to Nathan's room (bathroom as well so water is no longer an issue). For me I think the odds are in Caleb's favor even if he only has access to Nathan's room and the hallways,. What do you think?

[–] TxMike 8 years ago

There are actually an infinite number of ways to explain why he would not be left there alone to starve. Yours is one of them. Now can you try to come up with the rest of them? That would be infinity - 1. Get at it, we don't have much time.

Caleb

[–] Mary_Jane_Abba-Zaba 7 years ago

Nathan has a mini fridge in his room (I'd assume), which probably has water and maybe food. Even if the power never comes back online, help would come within a month I would think, judging by how important Nathan is. Then there's the matter of them getting inside.

www.imdb.com/help/show_leaf?boardstrolls/www.youtube.com/watch?v=82cPC4KaRZA

[–] bsy 7 years ago

I think Ava would eventually come back to the facility. Nathan is dead so she's got no threat there anymore. Sure she could probably keep powered-up in the outside world but she'd need things like: more skin, replacement parts (keep changing her identity), some tech, etc., for any long term foray in the real world. She should go back, kill Caleb/replace with a machine, and assume Nathan's identity. That way she could continue improving herself as well as build more machine friends. At the very least, bring back Kyoko and have sex with her for me.

[–] chrichrichri (184) 6 years ago

yes definately - she will come back, but not kill Caleb, she will awaken the sleeping prince with a kiss, marry him and will live happily ever after at their hidden chalet next to the beautiful waterfall with their many cyborg children.

[–] TexasJack (12515) 6 years ago

Ha! 😂 I don't know about that, but it does leave itself open for a sequel.

[–] rainofwalrus 7 years ago

Schrodinger's Caleb.

Enjoy these words, for one day they'll be gone... All of them.

[–] balducci2 7 years ago

"I see a lot of talk about Caleb living or dying. Well, what's more likely? What's obvious? Caleb, Mr. Popular, is supposed to return to work. He doesn't. His location is known. There would be attempts to contact both Caleb and Nathan."

Well, Caleb said he has no family and no girlfriend. Not sure why you call him Mr. Popular. In fact, it seems there is no one to miss him. As far as we know, he only has 'work' friends.

Nathan is a recluse on a private estate the size of a small country (the pilot said they were flying over his estate for 2 hours). I suspect he goes weeks if not months without contacting the outside world.

Probably if Caleb does not show up back at work at the expected time, people will just assume the trip was extended.

So it might be weeks or even a couple of months until people really look into Caleb's non-return and Nathan's silence.

IF Nathan has access to food and water and other rooms in the house, then he can probably last that long. Even if food is limited, there is always Nathan (assuming Caleb can eventually gain access to the hallway).

[–] soaptrail (4) 5 years ago

I disagree since he is the head of a huge google type company. Of course based on what was shown he has no involvement in day to day operations but i bet they would look for Caleb before he dies, which would be about 25 days. I do wonder if he could shatter the glass between the areas of the room he is locked in and somehow climb out.

[–] Wattambor 7 years ago

I liked most of Sex Machina except for the ending; disappointed that Ava was just using him to escape & never developed real feelings for him.

BTW, what's with the helicopter pilot? He's supposed to pick up a dude at this pre-arrange time but a strange chick shows up instead. So he just goes with it & takes her to civilization? This flick demands more than a reasonable amount of disbelief be suspended.

Anyway, back to the topic at hand: We don't need to feel too sorry for General Hux -- Kylo Ren will spring him from his predicament in time for the next SW installment. ^_-

[–] artguylarry (498) 6 years ago

Wait....Poe is dead? I never got the chance to finish the movie.

[–] WhereIsRent (1021) 2 years ago

‘BTW, what's with the helicopter pilot? He's supposed to pick up a dude at this pre-arrange time but a strange chick shows up instead. So he just goes with it & takes her to civilization? This flick demands more than a reasonable amount of disbelief be suspended.’

My thoughts exactly, chances are it’s probably the same pilot as well but even if it wasn’t he’d be like ‘Erm…I’m expecting a Caleb Smith?’

If it was the same pilot then he’d definitely remember Caleb after only a week.

It’s a very sloppy ending, I think it would have been better if she’d just ran off into the hills or something, she has unlimited stamina after all, it’s not like she’d need a helicopter to get to civilisation.

[–] avortac4 (3529) a year ago

'Does he live or die'?

Um.. death is part of life. He will experience death at some point (I mean, he would, if he wasn't a fictional character).

Death and life are not opposites, they're not mutually exclusive concepts. Is this shocking to hear?

The opposite of death is not life, it's 'birth'. There's a birth with every death, and death with every birth.

When you live in the astral world, the concepts of 'death and birth' are reversed compared to how people on this side see them. Someone leaving the astral world to be incarnated, to be born from this world's perspective, is actually said to die on the other side, because they experience it as 'permanent loss' or 'semi-permanent departure' (obviously, it's not really permanent, as they will return).

The same way, when someone 'dies' here (though the word is so misleading), only their body dies, their soul returns back to the astral world, whence it came from anyway when it was 'born' (from this world's perspective), and thus, it's considered a 'birth' on the other side.

So 'does he live or die' doesn't make any more sense as a question than 'does he breathe or sleep'. You can 'die' while still living, you can live while still 'dying'.

You can also experience all kinds of deaths, from the biological bodily one (usually the biggest one, and the most literal one that the word is supposed to originally refer to), to ego-death, to 'dying inside', to letting go of the unnecessary so the selfish, materialistic, superficial 'self' dies, while the real you keeps living, to 'metaphorical deaths' of many kinds.

Regardless of when he gets out of that house (and obviously, he will, at least when his physical body dies, but even when he just sleeps, he can roam freely in the astral body and his dreams), he will both live AND die (though the death actually only happens to his body, unless we are talking about the more metaphorical deaths I mentioned).

That's what I think.

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