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Can't believe so many people like this film. It's not that bad, but


no way deserves some of the praise it has gotten.

Boring would be a good word to describe it.

The villains are laughable. The main bad guy was a cheap knock off version of Palance from Young Guns.

They make Butler seem like a bad-ass, then Costner just walks up to him and shoots him in the head and Butler just stands there like a dumbass.

The mexican kid just stumbles into town for no reason other than to create more drama and the oppressed town folk revolt against main bad guy Road House style.

Again, no bad, just really drawn out and needed better editing.


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I disagree with you completely. I absolutely love this movie and I'm saddened that you don't see more good westerns like this on the big screen.

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You may want to pay attention to other things, like dialogue for one.

Maybe go over and check out the Transformers board or something with cool explosions.

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Haha, that's pretty funny

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"They make Butler seem like a bad-ass, then Costner just walks up to him and shoots him in the head and Butler just stands there like a dumbass."

that's because he just got shot in the head, and hadn't fallen yet. but yeah, after you get a bullet in the head, its probably normal to assume a dumbass expression.

its been a while, but the mexican kid strumbles into town, iirc, to see what befell his buddy, who got his head cracked in.

i've always wondered if they cut that fight scene, or just implied it. would have been something to see.

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This is a good movie. Too bad some people can't appreciate it. Their loss.

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The final shootout is about 10 minutes too long, but otherwise you are very mistaken.

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Boring would be a good word to describe it.


More like it has the confidence to take its time and flesh out the believable characters.

The villains are laughable. The main bad guy was a cheap knock off version of Palance from Young Guns.


How was Baxter laughable? He was an Irish land baron who built his ranch empire from nothing and is now drunk on power decades later. He owns the sheriff and think he owns the town (and does to a point). The previous free rangers who traveled through the region a few years earlier he had murdered and easily got away with it. He pompously thought he'd get away with it this time too, but was wrong. He was also wrong about the citizens of Hammondville; he thought he had them all under his thumb; obviously not.

It is true, however, that this kind of villain is an old standby in Westerns; look no further than "Shane" where the character is less one-dimensional.

"Young Guns" is a very good retelling of the Billy the Kid saga, but "Open Range" is just as good or better in its own way. They're too different to really compare.

They make Butler seem like a bad-ass, then Costner just walks up to him and shoots him in the head and Butler just stands there like a dumbass.


The smirking Butler was over-confident. He didn't realize that Charlie was an expert killer and fast with the draw. It didn't help that Butler's right arm was broken.

But you missed the amusing irony: The movie builds up the bad-axx character of Butler and the viewer knows he's going to play a big role in the last act; then the movie pulls the rug out from under you. The bigger and badder they are, the harder (and quicker) they fall.

The mexican kid just stumbles into town for no reason


I think he was French, not Mexican. And he stumbles into town recovering from serious wounds because his comrades were making a last stand and he naturally wanted to assist them.

and the oppressed town folk revolt against main bad guy


Exactly. They finally had enough of Baxter's pompous tyranny and Boss & Charlie were the ones who gave them the spark to stand up and fight, come what may.

needed better editing


Some of the editing is peculiar, which may strike some viewers in a negative way, but that doesn't necessarily make it bad. I think it was artistic and had zero problem following the story. In any case, it's still a great modern Western.

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The slow pace fits the movie, and builds up to the ending.
Time for dialogue and getting to know the characters.
Good movies don't need non-stop action and car chases.

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