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Would he have killed his ?????


Daughter i really couldn't see that happening i know the cop was pretty much on the money with dfenz. His wife no doubt he would have killed her but his child can't see that one.

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I don't think so. She obviously loved him.

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Me to but the cop was like your were gonna kill you wife and child I'm like the wife uhh YEA!!!!! but his kid i don't see it.

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When he tells his wife on the phone that in some countries it is legal to kill your wife if she insults you, he is clearly signalling his intentions. As to his kid, he could probably rationalise it as not leaving the kid to be an orphan. D-Fens is basically on a suicide drive in this film and clearly has no intention of living much longer.

"Chicken soup - with a *beep* straw."

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"When he tells his wife on the phone that in some countries it is legal to kill your wife if she insults you, he is clearly signalling his intentions."

Yeah, this is a very telling moment. The film is preparing us for an inevitability. We're given every opportunity to realise that the story can only end in tragedy, and the question is only who will get hurt.

It's the recurring theme of the scenes; his violence is inevitable. From the grocery store, to the breakfast menu, to taking the family hostage. He doesn't necessarily intend for the situations to get out of hand. In all of them he denies his responsibility and even seems surprised that people would think he's the one at fault, but the phone call tells us he's increasingly aware that things just go against him.

I don't think he has any urge to harm his daughter, in fact I think that's the last thing he'd want, but the cop knows that with a bag full of guns and a near army chasing him, things can only end one way.

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"When he tells his wife on the phone that in some countries it is legal to kill your wife if she insults you, he is clearly signalling his intentions."
Not necessarily. He could have been telling her that she should be grateful that she isn't in central America.

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No, he's not signaling anything other than his anger towards her for disrespecting him.

Typical SJW/feminist crap where everything is a "threat," even when it's not.

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Yeah, and his gym bag is full of flowers.
I am sure estranged husbands never kill their ex-wives either.

"Chicken soup - with a *beep* straw."

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Yes. He told the guy at the doctor's house that he and his family were going to go to sleep together in the dark.

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Absolutely. I watched this only recently and suddenly "got" that scene. When I saw it many years ago on release, I was too young to fully appreciate that scene but he is definitely going to kill both his wife and child and then himself. He doesn't even say "all be together in heaven (or any other form of afterllife)" he merely says "..in the dark." Chilling scene.

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That, after the cop says Foster was going to kill the wife and daughter, Foster doesn't deny it I think strongly suggests that he would have or at least he admits to himself that he easily could have.

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But remember he said his little daughter could collect the insurance if the cop kills him!!! i think he was gonna kill his wife but i can't see his kid.

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The insurance thing was Bill's "plan B" now that his original plan was already foiled.

As PrimeMinisterOfTheSinister & Supratad both point out, Bill pretty much said he was going to kill his wife AND daughter so they could all be "together in the dark."

BTW, it took me a second viewing to put that together, too.

Once his wife got away with the daughter, he knew he'd never get another chance to kill them. So he went with plan B: get himself killed (since he was planning on dying anyway) and provide for his daughter at the same time.

In a sense, he redeemed himself rather like Darth Vader did, except he was both Palpatine and Anakin

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He said that when he realized that both wife and daughter were away from him, with the policeman..besides that I do not believe that he would have killed his daughter.

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I thought about this thread so, I had to re-watch this movie and this particular scene again. IMHO I don't think Bill was going to kill Beth and Adele. He said something in the lines of: "When it gets dark, we'll sleep together in the dark. It'll be just like it was before." I took this as his EXTREMELY unhinged thought that he wanted to reconcile with Beth and re-enter Adele's life. Why else would Bill creepily hug and kiss Beth and talk with Adele? He had the gun....If Bill wanted them dead, why bother talking, hugging and kissing them????

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I think he intended to while he was on his rampage, but as to whether he would have been able to pull the trigger when the moment came on the pier, who knows. He obviously still loved both of them, even in his deranged mental state. So he might have hesitated if given the chance.

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Nothing in the movie ever convinced me he would kill his wife or daughter. Just society/authority overreacting. What else is new?

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I don't think it either .He never would have killed his daughter or wife (even if he does not love her anymore).

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