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It's too bad we never got a separate soundtrack released for this film, because it's one of the things I find most memorable about it. I usually find 50s scores to be overly bombastic, but here it's used properly. For example, I love the foreboding music as Captain Dove and the other prisoners are being taken to the Graf Spee. It made the Graf Spee much more intimidating, as if they were about to be swallowed by a giant steel beast. I also remember, watching this as a young lad, the heroic-sounding score making me cheer at the intro of the Ajax, Achilles and Exeter. I suppose if we wanted to just listen to the score, we could just rip the audio from the DVD into separate tracks. Thanks, that actually makes a lot more sense now that you pointed out he didn't intend to blow it up and that it was leaking radiation. Initially, I though the same thing, especially given that Snake destroys a tape that was meant to bring technological advancement and peace between nations. But I don't think it was meant to be that black and white that Snake = good guy and the president = bad guy. In the end, I read it more as it's a shitty world, filled with shitty people of all kinds. Snake and the president are both assholes in their own way. Snake is just an asshole with balls, which is what the audience is supposed to like. You hit the nail on the head with what bothered me about this movie. It's not a BAD movie at all, but it's just so safe and banal that it feels more like a slick pharmaceutical company advertisement than a movie with a gripping story to tell. Virus gets out, government scientists work on vaccine, vaccine released, end of story. There was nothing that had me on the edge of my seat even as millions of people were dying in the story. I actually prefer the plague chapter of Stephen King's The Stand. There, somehow I really feel the progression from the government's initial attempts to quietly contain the virus, to the desperation of martial law being declared, to total anarchy, and finally, the world ending with a whimper, as the last remaining government officials and scientists give up hope on stopping the virus. Sure, there are a lot of cheesy scenes, but The Stand just has more SOUL than Contagion and actually feels more true to life now with the current Wu Flu pandemic. Another American here who prefers the doomed ending. I'm pretty sure the title has a double-meaning, referring to both their descent into the cave as well as their descent from civilized humans to animal survival instinct, a la Lord of the Flies. Other than Holly, the girls all lost some of their humanity, culminating in Sarah maiming Juno and leaving her as bait for the monsters. Given that none of them is particularly admirable (though my personal favorite is Juno), it's a more fitting end to have all the characters die. While the movie presents Flagg as a blatant supernatural evil, I did find it ironic that his Las Vegas society was not really all that different from other authoritarian regimes from history and present day around the world. Governments that use violence to wipe out political rivals, punish drug use or even politically incorrect speech in the name of order, are all too common. And for sure, the democracy of the Free Zone in the movie was shown to be much more idealistic than it probably would have been in real life. But we can't respect Flagg for the simple reason that it's baked into the story that he's an evil apostate of Hell. The video game Fallout: New Vegas actually did a much better job of conveying the moral ambiguity of different methods of rebuilding society in the wake of an apocalypse. In a post-apocalyptic America, the democratic New California Republic fights the authoritarian Caesar's Legion for control of the Hoover Dam and Las Vegas, complete with drug prohibition and crucifixions (Hmm, wonder if the writers were influenced by The Stand!). But here, it's left up to the player who they think would be better for rebuilding society. Caesar's Legion is brutal and violent, but it produces a strong and united society where everyone works for the common good, whether they want to or not. It has the same appeal as the authoritarian communist and fascist regimes from history. The NCR, on the other hand, faces similar problems to our real life western democracies, where the government is corrupt and influenced by the wealthy and powerful, but at least it maintains the pretense of a return to the rule of law and the protection of people's rights. I've played both sides and both times I felt like I was doing the right thing. That's good writing. Yeah, I guess it really is just the supernatural angle. Not animated, but it reminded me of The Adventures of Baron Munchausen, in that both feature old men living out their fantasies of adventure by flying in a balloon, with a dog and a stowaway kid along for the ride. They even fly through a storm and pass out, just like in Up! O'Reardon does say he's loyal to O'Donnell at the bar. Did he doubt his sincerity? Or was he going to have him killed no matter what? I love this soundtrack so much that I own all three versions of it (that I'm aware of). No other soundtrack has ever brought out such inspiration and emotion in me. Between Glory, Braveheart and Titanic, James Horner basically wrote the soundtrack for my teenage years. View all replies >